The Myth of the Good Guy Cop

On the Cop Block Facebook page, comments on this blog, and on my YouTube channel, and really anywhere you say anything negative about police in general, there is one common theme you can expect to hear from the voting cattle and government propagandabots. “You shouldn’t paint with such a broad brush, sure there are some bad cops out there, but most cops are good guys. Maybe not most, but some of them exist. Someday you might need a cop” or some variation thereof.

The Myth of the Good Guy Cop

The Myth of the Good Guy Cop

This is absolute nonsense. The fact of the matter is, the best cop on the planet, would be a do nothing tax leech. Literally, the best case scenario for a police officer, would be somebody who showed up for work, got in his squad car, parked it, and went to sleep. Now of course, we see this from time to time, and perhaps we could thank those sleepy evildoers for not harming anyone that day, except for the fact that they are getting paid to do the exact opposite, and they are paid by taxation.

Taxation is theft. No matter what your opinion on taxes is, this is proven by the fact that myself and others do no consent to taxation. Our money is taken from us without our consent, and under threat of violence. If we do not pay, men (cops, actually) will break into our homes, shoot our pets, and kidnap us. If we resist, they will gun us down without a second thought. If you think that’s a morally justifiable thing because some slave owners wrote a document 230 some odd years ago, that’s a topic for another article, but it’s still theft.

So really, when the highest possible aspiration for a man with a uniform is literally that of being a lazy thief, one can easily imagine that the jump to heroic savior of mankind is rather unlikely. 

Because the other thing that we know is, cops have quotas, or at least, some expectation that they will go out and generate revenue, like any other job. If said good guy cop went fishing instead of victimizing innocent motorists and kidnapping hippies for possessing plants, he’d not be a cop for long, would he?

Of course not. In fact, we can safely make the assumption that the longer he’s been a cop, the more innocent people he has harmed. If he has moved up in the ranks at all, then we can safely assume he did it with a particular enthusiasm that warranted promotion. So by the time one reaches the esteemed title of “homicide detective” or “armed robbery investigator” we know that he has stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars from people who committed the heinous crime of “driving to work” and that each one of those thefts involved a death threat.

When a police officer turns on his flashers, he’s not making a polite request to have a chat with you. He’s informing you that your car is about to stop, whether it’s because you pull the car over, or because he runs it off the road and shoots you in the face. This is not a negotiation, and if you think it is, then by all means, the next time one of these “good guy cops” catches you speeding, just wave to him and keep on driving. Make sure your camera is running at the time, and if you survive the encounter, be sure to submit the video to CopBlock.org after.

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  • Timothy Babcock

    This makes me so sad. It’s not news to me of course but every time I read about somebody being harassed or worse makes me have no hope for this world. I’m definitely never having kids. I would not want to bring them into this hell.

    • Charlotte Bryant

      I agree :/

      • Will

        On the contrary, we shall have more kids than statists to outnumber them!

        That would shore up the private sector for education (be it homeschooling, private schools or other alternatives to public education) and hopefully convince other people to join this buoyant private sector.

        All those little libertarians (I mean actually free kids) would most likely become entrepreneurs and would come up with more solutions to end the state.

        • kathy

          Well one raped me and we have a son together and he is home schooled and yes he does have his badge still.

  • lberns

    Cue the bootlicking copsuckers

    • GenJohnStarkReturns

      Copsucker. lmao I’m stealing that shit.

  • Randal

    Well said but not broad enough. The reality is that anyone that works for any income tax supported agency, or an agency supported by any taxes taken against our will, is in the same boat as the cop.
    EPC
    TSA
    DHS
    FBI
    FDA
    USDA
    Etc.
    All supported by income taxes and anyone working for them are just as much a leech as the cops mentioned above.

    • Charles Bigblack

      You are a fucking moron

      • Brandon Swords

        Cool ad hominems, bro. U mad cuz he right.

        • Orrome

          Actually no that was a moronish thing to suggest. Cops victimize innocent people through their actions because it is their job description. A Nanny working for the state to take care of children, or a school teacher, is not forcibly taking money from anyone they are simply participating in the system that exists to support their life and needs. They are not harming anyone. You could argue that, well if no one was willing to work at a tax supporting job then no ones money would be taken, and this is one theory, but one with many holes. Either way accepting a job does not make you a bad person, and certainly does not equate you to a cop. No government paid surgeon has it out to take peoples money by force, like police do. Equating them is moronish.

          • Brandon Swords

            “I don’t want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers.” – Creator of the National Education Association.

          • Karl Schipul

            Randall was not talking about nannies, though.

            Go back and read what he listed.

          • George Areklakis

            “anyone that works for any income tax supported agency, or an agency
            supported by any taxes taken against our will, is in the same boat as
            the cop” there’s an Etc in the end of the list, implying the existence of more entries in a complete version of it

        • Roger

          I post this as Christopher just praised the shooting of two cops in a mall eating their lunch. He is simply dealing in collectives here. Crimes can only be done by individuals. In the case of cop shooting, the individual cop can be considered guilty only if there is proof that HE specifically committed actual crimes. The NAP doesn’t deal with collectives, and you don’t assume guilt by association.

          If these cops were proven to have enforced criminal laws against specific people, then the people they coerced against have the right of proportionate punishment.

          But simply wearing the uniform does not constitute aggression. They could have reserved themselves to units that only go after actual crimes (murder, theft), or as Christopher himself put it, they could be ” the best type cop on the planet, nothing but a tax leech”.

          This last case is even more clear cut, or do I need to recommend some Walter Block to show that taking money from a thief is not a crime? That’s why is not criminal to hold public jobs in noncriminal activities (eg education, utilities, fighting actual crimes).

          Bottom line, the shooters are murderers, plain and simple. People who defend murderers can claim no moral high ground against any statist.

          • David

            I actually agree with you on the issue, but its highly likely that the cops who were killed were more than just tax leeches. The real question is not whether these cops were criminals, the real question is whether vigilante justice can be justified, and whether those cops had done things that were worthy of death.

            I don’t know the answer to those questions. I can tell you that I feel a little uneasy about what Cantwell said. I can also tell you that I don’t feel disgusted by it the same way I do when somebody defends the bombing of civilians or other things like that. I guess I’m kind of in the middle on this one because, while I wouldn’t make a statement like “the good news is, two cops are dead”, I also recognize that the career is evil by definition.

            I guess my feelings really depend on what kind of cops they were. If they were the sociopathic sort that enjoy abusing their power over other people, than I’m glad they’re gone. If they were the drone-like sort who just did what they were told, assumed it was a good thing, and lived “good” lives outside of their jobs, than I just find the whole thing sad any way you look at it.

          • David Bel

            Type of cops they were = Evil

            There’s no other kind really. A cop is a cop is a cop just like there were no “good” Nazis. This is a war and the enemy must be treated as such. Give No mercy for you shall receive none!!

          • ^^ Badgefluffer.

          • David Bel

            Those who kill tyrants are heroes, plain and simple!!

    • J. J. M. Sinclair

      Oh, don’t forget to include all branches of the DoD, such as the military.

  • th3r0n

    I agree that the system is entirely corrupt, and that the job of the police is to uphold corrupt laws that are not wished for by the people, but there are police that resist upholding corrupt laws and look the other way as best they can unless someone is actually damaging the public interest or hurting someone etc. This may not be true in larger cities, but I have seen it in small ones. “The police” are an issue, hired as wardens of a prison fifty nifty states strong, but a good person can try to make a difference from the inside of anything. With a scientific mind, one can say that almost any generalization when said as an absolute is statistically impossible to be correct.

    • Kitties nRainbows

      Word salad.

    • KAi BhavinPatel

      already covered in the article. The best cop is a lazy cop who is payed by theft.
      The good cop does not exist.
      Do you even read?

      • Feliciano

        read the article and it was full of shit. I know quite a few cops who ignore petty bs like weed cause it waste their time. They worry about physical abuse. Stealing. Paid by theft? If anyone who went on these rants either went to public school or got public assistance then that makes them thieves too.

        • Jonathan Edward Didier

          Being forced into the system at birth, brainwashed into thinking it’s ok, then guided around as an adolescent through the brain-killer that is the public school system isn’t exactly our faults.

          Stop apologizing for evil.

          • Feliciano

            Wanting a basic education for all children isn’t evil. What people grow up to be and how they think falls upon them.

          • Freefall

            You are a fucking idiot. Wanting basic education for children is different than FORCING your idea of what education people should have on others at the point of a gun. You are trying to make your authoritarian indoctrination centers sound benevolent.

          • The Bajeezus

            Feliciano, I started out disagreeing with you, but you actually proved to be the stronger thinker in this particular thread. Way to be reasonable.

          • No, you’re right. Marx was a swell guy.

        • Sam Cru

          Going to school is compulsory. You can’t just stay home as a child and play in the sandbox. It’s illegal. You have to participate in a state-approved school curricula. You cannot make a case that children steal when they are forced at gun point to participate in state schooling.

          You appear to be incapable of critical thought.

          • Feliciano

            And if it weren’t? How many more people would just keep their kid home with no regard for a proper education? Do you honestly want a society of “Home schooled” people running this country? And before ppl chime in as to how they were home schooled, let keep it real. There are people who want to home school their kids because the don’t believe in evolution or the holocaust. I think we have enough people who need the cash register to tell them how much change to give. As for the children being thieves I was speaking in the extreme as these people say everyone who gets paid by taxes is a thief. As for being incapable of critical thought you will find me apt enough. I say they are incapable of logical thought

          • pbfrank13

            false dichotomy. You assume that people wouldn’t home school their kids or educate them at all. Because in a free society, for whatever reason, no one would value education and no one would set up a voluntary education system that could be charitable or for profit.

            You also assume that if it wasn’t for compulsory education and the compulsory taxation that funds it, no one would be educated or educated effectively.

            Being against mandatory public education is not the same as being against all education, there is a distinct and fundamental difference you seem to be unable to grasp.

          • I can imagine what public school would have been like if all the bratty, out of control, doped out losers who didn’t want to be there were allowed by the state to stay home (or wherever). I would have actually gotten the education I wanted instead of wasting 30 mins of every 90 mins listening to teachers tell assholes to sit down, stop joking, wake up, etc.

      • th3r0n

        I do, apparently you don’t. I said looks the other way on **corrupt laws** and does do good things such as prevent rape and murder. Did I have to get that specific for an idiot to understand? “Damaging the public interest or hurting someone” would include rape, unjustified killing, theft, beating on people without reason, vandalism and other similar things. If you believe a cop fighting to prevent stop those things is a bad cop, I think they need to go visit you to see wtf you’ve been doing. Most are more interested in harassing people or making their quota to care about those things, but I have known and seen officers that ignore most bullshit laws and actually protect people, few and far between as they are. Take your ignorance elsewhere.

    • Dixianne Hawks

      There is no such thing as an honest cop as once he has witnessed the evil of his brethren and does not report them, he becomes an accomplice as to report them is to become suspect or lose his job.

  • Mataro Mackall

    Agree

  • StillCantBanMe

    ” Our money is taken from us without our consent, ” you consent to it by using it. Don’t like it? Don’t use American money. You’re not restricted from directly trading your own labor or goods for things, you CHOOSE the money system.

    Why aren’t you living in a bastion of freedom like Somalia? Oh right you like the first world lifestyle…. weird how no free country like Somalia has first world comfort. Might just be a connection there!

    • Scienceofthemind StreetTeam

      Agree if you don’t like taxes move to the woods with Mic Dodge and live in a stump. I voluntarily pay mine. I like driving on paved roads. I like eating food that has been inspected. It’s the price of doing business here in AMERICA. If you don’t like it move. Simple as that. It’s fun to be against every thing when you are a teenager listening to punk rock. Some time you have to grow up and get a job and buy things and pay taxes.

      • Kitties nRainbows

        No, actually we don’t. The government can, and does, print all the money it needs. Why pay taxes at all then?

        • Feliciano

          I personally think taxes would be the easiest way to change this country. If not one person or company paid taxes in the legal 3 years that we had to do so until we got people in office who actually cared about the people it would make a huge difference.

          • StillCantBanMe

            Yes. Everyone being extra greedy and only caring about accumulating as much green paper as possible can’t possibly go wrong!

      • lberns

        “I voluntarily pay mine.”

        LOL

        • Ryne Pinto

          HaHa! I felt a few of my own brain cells commit suicide when I read that line. =P

          • lberns

            I know. Statists are so fucking delusional.

          • Feliciano

            Do you only drive through the woods or side trails? Do you shop at a grocery store? Unless you live in a cabin with your own solar powered home with your with your antenna running up the tallest pine eating only what you kill then I assume you are enjoying some of what your taxes pay for. If he is paying his taxes and is happy to do so then yes he is voluntarily paying his. Otherwise he’d be up here bitching about how his taxes go to things he doesn’t want them too

          • lberns

            Right, because only a violent coercive gang of parasites are qualified to take a flat piece of real estate and throw concrete on it. Fuck off, state worshiping prick.

          • Feliciano

            I take that as a no. Peace

          • lberns

            No, take is as a request to quit pointing guns at people in support of your great ideas.

            Peace

          • Amy DuChesne Foltz

            Hell yes. Feliciano got #owned

          • Dustin Calgaro

            Do you really think that without government we wouldn’t be able to educate our children or build roads? I think there would even be freeways because of corporations needing trade routes. The only reason we didn’t have good roads in the frontier days is because we didn’t have the means of paving roads across America. Roads would start in city centers and spread across states just as they have around the world for hundreds of years. Your view of us as helpless without mommy government is a sad view of humanity.

          • StillCantBanMe

            You had some left to commit suicide?

      • you do realize people were building roads long before “government” was invented.. people have been living much longer than a repressive regime bringing democracy to poor countries one hellfire missile at a time.

        • Feliciano

          Yes. They did build trailsin the dirt from so many wagons and horses running over them. Now lets imagine that that was all there was no highways like we have now. No shit people have been living longer than America has been around. That’s the no shit comment of the week. Guess America should always stay out of others business so the rest of the world would be giving a nazi salute

          • Joshua Rotor

            hey dumbshit. unless we get asked to join we shouldnt. get the fuck out of the middle east.

          • Feliciano

            So if i were walking down the street watching you get your ass beat by 5 guys with baseball bats I should just let it go cause you didn’t ask for help in your limp state? I agree we shouldn’t be in the middle east for the oil and bs reasons we are but honestly those people needed help. Say what you want but when you could walk down the street and randomly be chosen cause your neighbor said you dissed the president and then put against a wall with no real reason and shot in front of your family cause they needed to learn the lesson and then they shoot your son so he wont grow up to be a problem either something needs to happen. I know your gonna call me a kool aid drinker but do some research. Look at the soccer team that lost. There are things happening over there daily that if they happened here once wed call for the presidents head. Btw I am rather intelligent.

          • Josh P

            and it was the reparations from WW1 that Germany was forced to pay at the barrel of USA guns that set the stage for the rise of the Nazi party. Also most of the American elite liked the Nazi party line. If you are going to use WW2 to prove your point then you need to know all the facts.

        • The Bajeezus

          Yeah, shitty roads that took forever to build, and were built whenever people felt like it. People with more money had better roads to ride on than the less fortunate. Our process of taxation needs massive reform, but we can’t pretend we don’t need taxes for infrastructure.

          • Zach

            You must live a pretty insular life if you believe benevolent government makes the roads equal in rich or poor communities.

            And it’s really not pretending. Read Walter Block. I think even Cantwell has a post, “what about the roads.” I imagine if you google that phrase you can find a dozen answers to your contention. It has been asked a million times, and also answered as many. : )

          • The Bajeezus

            No, I don’t believe that, I just mean more and better roads are made under government. We’ll always treat our poor like shit, as long as there’s capitalism, and the roads will never be equal, but they are MORE equal with government. We’re going to go ride on a highway today. I am not wealthy. I doubt the rich would afford me that right on their own.

          • Zach

            “We’ll always treat our poor like shit, as long as there’s capitalism…”

            What are you even talking about? I mean really, what does this mean? You think the state’s crackdown and elimination of people being able to freely exchange goods and services in the marketplace made things better for the poor? Is this an argument for communism or socialism or fascism? What is this?

          • The Bajeezus

            I consider myself a technocrat, which when employed tends to lead to socialism, so I suppose in theory I am technically a socialist. We can disagree, man, it’s OK. No, I don’t think the elimination of capitalism necessarily has to lead to the death of the free exchange of goods and services, or even the rich and middle class. Like I said, it is a discussion for another article, I’m just here to hate on some police with you all.

          • Zach

            “No, I don’t think the elimination of capitalism necessarily has to lead to the death of free exchange of goods and services…”

            But that is the definition of capitalism….

          • The Bajeezus

            Competitive commerce isn’t the sole propriety of capitalism. You can have the free exchange of goods and services under other philosophies. Free and competitive commerce existed before capitalism was invented, we do know this, right? You can even have it under socialism, despite the propaganda that says otherwise.

          • Zach

            Free trade is what capitalism is. Is your argument that if something existed before it was named, then only instances after the naming can be attributed to it?

            I’m not sure why you have added competitive to the definition of capitalism, as it does not exist in any definition of the term.

            According to Merriam Webster socialism is any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution.

            How in earth does this square with your assertion that

          • Zach

            You can have free trade under socialism?

          • Zach

            Cantwell, fix your damn site. It is way toooo glitchy to comment via mobile device. Have to break up posts in two, really slow, can’t copy and paste…

          • StillCantBanMe

            It’s not the site, it’s the commenting middleware, moron.

          • The Bajeezus

            No, I’m saying you can have free markets while eliminating Capitalism.

            Merriam Webster gave you a sentence. A sentence hardly covers the means and ways of a system of governance. That 1 sentence definition didn’t preclude free enterprise, it just has to work in the framework, which is definitely possible. Frankly, I don’t care. Kill free commerce, we’d be better off.

          • Zach

            “Frankly, I don’t care. Kill free commerce, we’d be better off.”

            Exactly, why beat around the bush? Next time just come out and say, “I am for people with guns operating for the ruling class to tell everyone what they can and cannot produce, can and cannot sell, and can and cannot buy. I am for this because, despite the obvious trampling of basic human rights, I believe those who oppose these ideas do not know what is best for themselves, therefore I support people with guns to “show them the way.” Finally, I support central planning. I think a small group of people can efficiently plan and run an economy that will be a better economy overall for everyone, rather than free individuals operating under their own incentives.

          • Zach

            USSR be damned. I am a communist, fascist, Fabian socialist” or whatever it that you are.

            Oh, and your assertion that definitions don’t matter, yeah, so words mean whatever you say they mean.

            May I suggest that before you unleash your obviously extremely well thought out philosophy on the world via “the series of tubes” that you actually do a little more reading and thinking? How about some Hoppe? Or Leonard Reed’s “I Pencil.” Obviously you will disagree, but maybe their criticisms will help you think your answers through more thoroughly.

          • StillCantBanMe

            It’s not a “trampling of basic human rights” to make it more difficult for me to harm you/your family and to punish me for it. Do you think the nice companies provide you with food instead of poison labeled as food because they’re such good people that they’d never lie to you for money? I’d poison your family if I didn’t fear the law-say thank you to the government, they’re the reason you’re alive.

          • Zach

            You really ought to do some reading… All your contentions have been answered a thousand times.

            Extremely short version- in a capitalist system, businesses only survive by providing goods and services others want. After someone got poisoned by your product, how many people does your company expect to keep purchasing your product? There are no bailouts to keep you afloat, and no crony deals to regulate competition out of business or force people to buy your faulty products like we have today.

            But you argued with someone else. I said it is trampling a basic human right to use force to

          • Zach

            prevent people from producing, selling, or buying goods and services they want. Think alcohol in prohibition, or marijuana today. It is clearly immoral.

      • in fact there are unincorporated towns all over america that have “roads”… no one takes money from these people by force.. if the road gets bad someone gets a shovel and fills in the hole. anyone can take 5 minutes to make a nice flat road… it’s called treat your neighbors the way you want to be treated.. no threats of violence required at all.

        • Feliciano

          Sucks that doesn’t work in a large town though. too many people who dont care and too many people who misuse it

        • Shanti Sena

          what happens is say your the one who gives the road contracts and im your pal..well we hire 50 guys to do a 10 man job and charge like 5 million dollars to fill in a couple holes and make a killing…its the american way…and we paid taxes also and filled out forms properly…

        • The Bajeezus

          You don’t honestly believe that can work across the country. A couple of small communities is far from a microcosm of the US. There is no way we can rely on the goodness of heart of our citizenry to get things done for each other.

      • ‘Murica!!

      • tlyng

        You also voluntarily pay for endless wars, rape and high tech murders. You voluntarily pay for destroying millions of families – I hope you rot in hell

        • Rand Allan

          Exactly. It would be one thing if I could direct all my taxes to the things I want to pay for. At least I would have a say in where the money they steal from me goes. However, most of my money goes to programs I abhor, and for those I don’t abhor the waste is appalling.

        • StillCantBanMe

          Are you suggesting that a completely free capitalist system WOULDN’T have those things (which they currently encourage to profit from)? You’re a naive fool if you think humanity and capitalism are compatible. You’re far more implicit by advocating money.

          • Zach

            War is only profitable because of taxation. If the government didn’t steal the money to then pay the soldiers and buy the weapons, it wouldn’t exist, at least on the scale we have today. Read a book.

          • tlyng

            But then you have the opportunity to withhold your financial support atleast. Another thing to concider is that it’s not enough money in the world to run the current wars (the war on terror alone have cost more than there exist gold on this planet). The only way they can finance such wars is goverment adding debt to future generations, as it’s not enough to ask the current generations. If bitcoin or any similar technology get more mainstream the goverments will lose their ability to counterfeit money, and at the same time lose their ability to continue on their warmongering path. I don’t say a completely free capitalist system is perfect, I just believe it’s far better.

      • Rand Allan

        C’mon, SST. You don’t actually believe you voluntarily pay taxes, do you? That implies that you have a choice to pay them or not. You have no choice at all to pay taxes or not, and you are rationalizing the fact that money is being taken from you without your say-so. I pay my taxes not because I like roads, food inspections, sewer lines, trash pickup (which are currently commandeered by govt rather than through more efficiently run private enterprise). I pay my taxes because I am told to, and I know that if I refuse, I run the risk of loss of property, jail time, and at the extreme, death, if I continue to resist. I would rather pay a private company or organization for services I want than to pay a govt for services I don’t want.

        • StillCantBanMe

          YOU CHOSE TO USE MONEY, RETARD. Don’t like paying taxes? Don’t CHOOSE to use THEIR money system.

          • Daxon Islander

            Actually, fuckwit, even if you just use barter, it’s still taxed.

          • StillCantBanMe

            Except not, but nice try sucker!

          • Kitón LePew

            What? How is using money a choice? What other options are there?

          • StillCantBanMe

            You know what I did for some fresh veggies recently? I didn’t trade green paper, I traded labor directly! Same for house painting! I CHOSE not to use money! Was it as easy? No, but I’m not a whiny bitch who is upset that the world doesn’t cater to my laziness and greed like some people.

      • Brandon Swords

        It would be really awesome if our slave owners did censor Nikola Tesla. We wouldn’t need roads and we would be traveling through the stars in ship and cars that run on free energy. You seriously sound like a massive jackass, Science. I don’t like to use ad hominems but jesus fucking christ, dude. I hate this planet because of people like you.

      • Michael Giza

        Everything you said can be done via private sector. Your are a tool.

        • StillCantBanMe

          *You’re, or *you are. I’m sure you’re an intellectual force worth listening to!

      • state hater

        Hey, shit-for-brains, paved roads and food inspection services can be provided by private firms.

      • William

        LOL. I saw roads mentioned….. I love that one.

    • Kitties nRainbows

      You can’t possibly be serious. This is the only argument for enslavement you can come up with?

      You have to do better than that, people won’t be sold anymore.

      • StillCantBanMe

        Except they will, because retards like yourself have no counterargument. You wish you were the rich %1 of the population, but instead you’re just the batshit crazy %1 that no one will ever listen to.

        • Kitties nRainbows

          A counterargument to what? You have to put forth an actual argument first.

          By the way, how old are you that you talk to people this way?

          • Brandon Paoni

            So because ‘BanMe doesn’t agree with you and calls someone a retard you are questioning why he talks to people this way. Yet when Cantwell, who does agree with your views, calls ‘BanMe a retard you don’t question why Cantwell talks to people that way? Looks like you are picking sides here, what is good for the goose is good for the gander….

    • John Bottomley

      Love it how people rationalize how they are happy to pay taxes because ‘merikuh. If there were not guns pointed at you or jails before you, you would work from January 1st to early May and hand over every cent of your pay. So you don’t have to live in a stump in the woods. Yes. I believe you. We all believe you. You are Super Patriot Guy!

      • Feliciano

        Actually I would cause I still have bills to pay and kids to provide for. I literally have enough to put gas in my car and treat my family to a nice dinner out and after that the rest of my money goes toward paying my bills and saving money so my kids can have nice stuff when they need it and get older. I have a nice house not a stump in the woods

        • John Bottomley

          You would work for four months for nothing and hand it over to a government official. Is there a nice way of saying this the baldfaced lie it is?

          • Feliciano

            Actually the tax rate I’m in now I basically hand over a 3rd of my tax money to the government anyway. So not really a lie if I’m pretty much doing it now.

          • Jesse Elliott

            Lol dumbass, that was his point. You work 4 months out of the year for the government for free. Maths are hard, derp.

      • Christopher Cantwell

        You think not using American money exempts me from taxes? Only a State slave could be so stupid. Even bitcoin is taxed, retard http://www.christophercantwell.com/2014/03/26/thought-bitcoin-end-state-lol/

        • John Bottomley

          In reply to me or ‘StillCantBanMe’? If to me, can you explain how my post relates to your reply?

    • Zach

      Something tells me you can’t define “money.”

      You do know about legal tender laws, right? That “choice” is also made at the barrel of a gun.

      • StillCantBanMe

        Whose gun is forcing you to live here? YOU CHOSE to live in this system.

        • Matt Bonfadini

          The barrel of homeland security’s gun! Try to take your assets and leave, they will seize your””drug money” and throw you in a cage!

          • JFKToo

            What a moron. Your post is Bullshit! Leave now.

        • state hater

          Why should we, rather than your beloved ruling class, go anywhere, you drooling fucking moron?

    • Joshua Rotor

      excuse me? im sorry but taxation is a pretty common thing whether you live in in britain, usa or canada. no matrer jow you justify it, taxation is robbery cause at the end of every week my pay is chopped down 200$ just so the govt can pay other govt officials to find ways to take my money away. if i did want to live in the woods off of my own services the govt would force me to pay a debt for living in canada on cansdian land and then slap me with a fine for evading taxes.

      • StillCantBanMe

        it’s THEIR money. YOU choose to use it. Don’t like their terms? Don’t use their money. Don’t like how they divvy up land ownership? Move somewhere more free. You CHOOSE to live this way.

        • Zach

          I fail to see how it is their money when I did the work. Or how I chose for them to take it. Again, read a book, juvenile.

          • StillCantBanMe

            It’s their money because they printed it. YOU CHOSE to use THEIR PRODUCT so YOU ABIDE BY THEIR TERMS.

          • Zach

            How did I choose to use dollars? I was born here, I got a job, and they gave them to me after taking a portion out. I don’t remember getting to choose.

            In a free society there are competing currencies, no gang forces their manipulated currency on everybody else. You should read “What Has Government Done to Our Money” or “The Creature From Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve.”

    • david

      There is no correlation between taxes and freedom. Until 1909 taxes did not exist and as a matter of fact until that point had been deemed unconstitutional twice by the supreme court. Why the sudden switch? Those in power at the time realized how much revenue they were personally losing and how much of a raise they could have by voting it to thier selves that marked the end of actual statesmen and patriots enter in the leeches.

      • Jesse Elliott

        Income taxes are not the only form of taxes, bro. The U.S. CONstitution created a taxing authority that did not previously exist. What do you think the Whiskey Rebellion was over?

    • Brandon Swords

      Cool platitudinous post, Stillcantbanme. Haven’t heard that a million fucking times. Another reason why this planet sucks to live on. You can either live in a comfortable state of slavery, or live in a garbage dump. “Maybe this world is another planets hell.” What do you mean maybe? Earth is probably the Somalia of the galaxy. That’s why aliens don’t come here. We live in the ghetto of the universe. If you don’t think so, learn to astral project and travel around space through your ethereal body, you’ll see what I’m talking about.

      • StillCantBanMe

        Well yeah, what kind of primitive monkey fuck values currency? “It’s valuable because we’ve decided that it is! It is what I shall live for and base all value in life around!” Yeah, I can’t imagine why an advanced species would want to avoid you childish gimps.

    • Richard Abbey

      Actually Somalia has multiple governments which is why it has so many problems. The multiple governments of Somalia fight over which one should have a monopoly on the use of force which in turn causes chaos. It’s not the lack of government but the over abundance of government that creates the problems we see there.

    • Richard Abbey

      As for the issue of implied consent by using US currency, all Americans were compelled by the government to surrender their gold, silver, and gold and silver certificates to the private Bank called the Federal Reserve Bank in exchange for notes issued by said bank, if we hadn’t then we faced arrest and seizure of our property. So your argument is shit.

      • StillCantBanMe

        Weird, I have gold, no one has come to take it. Further, I have other goods and services I can trade directly. Your argument is shit. WAAH WAAAH MY SHINY METAL SHOULD BE THE BASIS FOR EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT’S WHAT *I* HAVE AND WHAT *I* SAY SHOULD BE VALUABLE

        • Zach

          Your failure to comprehend is highly juvenile. Read a book. This is taught even in basic public high school’s. FDR confiscated everyone’s gold at the point of a gun. This is what the commentator was referring. I believe the law changed back in the 1970’s where people, like yourself, could legally own it again. Just because you don’t understand an argument or know the history of the government you worship so much doesn’t mean you are correct. Only in your mind does ignorance win the argument.

          I mean geez, did u even go to high school? How old are u? 8? If so then I can forgive you, otherwise you are ignorant and deserve quite a bit of ridicule

          • StillCantBanMe

            Someone telling me that value should be based on a pile of shiny metal doesn’t really get to call anyone ignorant. Why the gold standard? Because YOU want it to be? WAAH WAAH

          • Zach

            I haven’t made that argument here, though it does make much more sense than paper, a secretive printing press, and a decree from on high.

            Here I’ll argue for freedom. Repeal legal tender laws and allow free people to choose. Isn’t that what you keep saying? Choose?

    • Michael Giza

      The Somalia arguement. I love that so much. Ignoring the warlords, every aspect of life in somalia is better than in the us.

      • StillCantBanMe

        Sounds like you found your niche to fill, capitalist! If it’s so easy, why hasn’t someone done that with the power of private capitalism? Why aren’t YOU there? Why are you bringing water bottles, hasn’t the lack of regulation made their water safer?

    • Dave Jones

      Let’s play imagination. Where everyone in the world pays their taxes “voluntarily.” We all get a big house with a unicorn in the backyard and everyday it rains gold coins.

      • lberns

        And this is what you get to clean up

        • Zach

          You r freakin hilarious, every time.

    • Kitón LePew

      Using money isn’t a choice.

    • Kitties nRainbows

      I suppose to a slave, it makes sense to justify their own enslavement by connecting it to a nice “lifestyle”.

      Freedom, like Somalia, is supposed to be terrifying?

  • Arnt Johnsen

    “Taxation is theft” On that part i must say no to some extend, without taxes we would never have a functioning society and that goes for us all world wide, when some don’t need to pay taxes (some well known Multi Inaternational Companies in USA) but are allowed to lure of money from their customers from fraud and scams then its totally wrong and despicable and i believe that’s one of the biggest problem you got in your country.
    A Government and State that doesnt listen to its public and allowing Departments that are under them such as Police, Courts etc to do what ever they feel like is totally idiotic and degrading for all that are paying for something they dont get.
    What i dont understand why have this been escalating lately with all this kind of ignorance and knucklehead or Cromagno style that have been shown so often, why? It must have some kind of a reason for this to happen.

    One strange thing i wonder over also are your IRS are to investigate if you paid taxes or not but they are not allowed to do that on banks etc on Wallstreet? Hrm, someone are having your state and government on their lap obviously, most likely are those the ones who set the rules for the lobby groups also.

    • Kitties nRainbows

      “…without taxes we would never have a functioning society and that goes for us all world wide…”

      This is the myth the slavemasters have spun since the beginning. You can’t live without master, master provides life.

      It’s nonsense.

    • lberns

      “…without taxes we would never have a functioning society and that goes for us all world wide…”

      Yes, the only path to a prosperous, functioning, just, moral, peaceful, and cohesive society is via the barrel of a gun!

      You think like a slave.

    • Shanti Sena

      well it would be interesting to see if it was voluntary to pay taxes who would put money in the cup for war…bombs..etc…the distribution of money from taxing would be more on research for healing cancer and such i bet…

  • craig

    Randal, does that include the military as well?

  • Anyone who knows my personal story http://www.blastthetrumpet.org would think it impossible for me to take a position as to debate this view; but I am going to do so. Sadly, not everyone on planet earth chooses moment by moment to be kind and friendly toward others. There are rapists, robbers, murderers, genocidal maniacs, etc. And while I’m an advocate for all citizens to bear arms skillfully and in any such attack by another the absolute right to defend themselves; not everyone is capable of doing so. Elderly and disabled citizens, single widows, etc. In a proper society violent criminals wouldn’t be around long enough to need officers to arrest them; but we are not living in a proper society or world. In addition, because we are not living in world where everyone agrees on every issue. Like the need to improve city infrastructures that bring water, sewer, fire prevention and response, and many other services that many who don’t want to pay for still benefit from and utilize. It would be great if the world was still big enough for people to homestead their own land (trouble with that is some are greedier than others). It is because of the vices of humanity, the disagreement of what is a needed service from what isn’t that unfortunately, a certain amount of coercion by force will exist until God Almighty perfects us all. As such, we need the most honorable citizens as possible in positions of government and coercion should NEVER be deadly; just to extract payment for public services rendered; but nevertheless obtained. It is when we have ABUSES of authority that go beyond participating in a civil society with so many public services as we have today that citizens must stand up and speak out to prevent enslavement and to remind those who govern that they do so ONLY by consent of the governed. I thank you for being one of those bold citizens who do so; but I will choose (despite how severely I have been maltreated by some authorities) to speak the truth; and that is thank God! there are still some decent ones left in the world!

  • paladins_hat

    Christopher, you are really doing a disservice to the whole idea of policing the police. It is delusional to think that all the spoiled, greedy citizens of a nation, country, region (whatever) will ever step up and voluntarily put out their own $ to build and maintain roads, provide aid to the injured and poor, provide fire protection, ensure that toxic chemicals aren’t dumped into the rivers,streams and groundwater., etc., etc….

    • rp

      RIGHT. No toxic chemicals have ever been dumped into a river because we have gubbmint to make sure that doesn’t happen. LOL. It goes more like this; A huge corporation dumps a few thousand tons of toxic shit into a river in order to save itself the millions of dollars it would have to spend to dispose of it properly. Gubbmint fines said corporation $50,000. Murrika!

      • Rudabaga

        OK, then can you give an example of a country, at least medium sized, that operates on a purely free market basis without taxation or government regulation? I want to know what this place looks like. Because I can go about half way with libertarians but I’m with paladins the rest of the way.

        • Sam Cru

          “OK, then can you give an example of a country, at least medium sized,
          that operates on a purely free market basis without taxation or
          government regulation?” There will be no countries in a free market.

          • Josh P

            the problem with the free market is the complete lack of any corporate accountability – the economic system that values money over peoples lives is the problem. The root cause of all the issues we have with the government come from the fact that the politicians work for the megacorps not for us. So as long as the economic system known as capitalism exists these problems will continue. We need to completely re-imagine society if we are to have the peace we want.

          • StillCantBanMe

            Peace isn’t profitable-these insecure manchildren don’t want peace, they want to hoard green paper and shiny metals because they have nothing else to show for their “lives”.

          • Zach

            War is only profitable through the state. Peace is profitable without it. Peace allows trade and the division of labor which allows the standard of living to rise over time.

          • Sam Cru

            “the problem with the free market is the complete lack of any corporate accountability…” Corporations are a machination of the state. They cannot exist without corporate law, the enforcement of which is paid for by the money that is extorted from you through taxation. You don’t know what a free market (market anarchy) is, and I am interested in your definition of “capitalism”. What is it? This is crucial because your definition of capitalism might not coincide with what many believe a free market to be, so utilizing those terms interchangeably, in your case, may be the root of your confusion.

          • Puma Cabra

            Fear of death is the root of coercion.
            I will believe good cops exist when I see them rise up against the corrupted Pigs.

          • state hater

            There would be no corporations without government.

            There is a difference between capitalism and corporatism.

          • Zach

            Actually, the free market is a much tougher regulator than the government. Build cars that people don’t want? Go out of business. Do evil banking techniques that bankrupt the nation, you also go broke- no bailout.

            Bailouts are the example of how government actually doesn’t regulate but creates the crony-fascist corporate state. It cannot exist without government and it’s “legitimate” taxation and use of force.

            Capitalism simply means one person is allowed to produce, sell, and trade anything with someone else, who can do the same. Why would you want a government to restrict that in some way? How would restricting commerce and liberty by force for society be better for society?

          • Kitties nRainbows

            As opposed to the current system where plutocrat corporations have official license to do all the things you hate.

          • Rudabaga

            This is teenage, Ayn Rand fantasy thinking. Rand was on welfare. It’s just a book. Ugh.

          • Sam Cru

            Ayn Rand wasn’t an anarchist, but she was a cult leader. Did you even read any of her books?

          • Rudabaga

            Yes, when I was in college I read Atlas Shrugged. She was just like a politician, preaching self-reliance for others and sucking on the government teat herself. We already had the gilded age. It sucked for 99% of people. I don’t want to go back.

  • Zach

    I want to see that article- “If you think that’s a morally justifiable thing because some slave owners wrote a document 230 some odd years ago, that’s a topic for another article, but it’s still theft.”

  • Tyson Bradford

    the writer and anyone who agrees with him is retarded. How many here have been pulled over? I have, plenty. Guess what? I have yet to be shot anywhere, let alone in the face. 8/10 they tend to let me go on my way unmolested. Fail 1

    Didn’t consent to pay taxes? Yes you did. You consented the moment you got a job in this country, you consented the instant you bought a house in this country. Don’t want to pay taxes? No one is keeping you here, fucking leave. Good luck finding ANY country that doesn’t tax. Plenty of people refuse to pay taxes, they either are arrested and jailed, or they leave the country to avoid said arrest, none of them have been shot arbitrarily. Fail 2

    No good cops? I can’t even post all the stories of good cops here as it’d be tldr. But a simple google search proves this point wrong. Fail 3

    Your article is full of fail, stupidity, and generally does little to indicate your possession of even miniscule amounts of intelligence. You in fact give all those who claim the title of “anarchist” a bad name in that nothing you said can be supported by fact. Are there shitty brutal corrupt cops? Hell yes. However they are outnumbered by the rest of the force who don’t brutalize, shoot on sight, or take bribes. If every cop was as you claim the country would be at a severe population decline. If you’re going to bother to write an article making such a stupid and ridiculous statement, you might want to at least attempt to be able to back it up with fact instead of idiotic ranting. I find it funny that upon the theft of your car or the intrusion of your home, you’re probably going to be calling these same police you vehemently hate.

    • Lynn Torres

      No cop calling here!! Not for anything!!!

      • Tyson Bradford

        yeah so you wake up your car is gone, and what? you just go out and buy a new car? You walk in, your girl/daughter tells you she was raped. what, oh well let it go no need to call the police? Whatever dude. Keep your thin veneer of bravado to yourself.

        • stan

          hahaha you sir are a fucking tool go hit a gym and stop watching wwe.

          • Tyson Bradford

            You fit the description of tool better than I. You support the vaguest of claims without the slightest trace of fact, you live your life in mortal fear of “the man” and all his mystery henchmen. You decry that our freedoms are being stripped all while being ignorant of the fact that you’re using one of them just to insult your government and its figures. I laugh at you.

          • Sam Cru

            And you live your life in mortal fear of rapists and thieves who don’t wear badges.

    • Kitties nRainbows

      Do you feel better now? Or is this another one of those rants from a paid shill intended to spam up a site?

      • Tyson Bradford

        Yes because anyone speaking against your paranoid little conspiracy theories must be a paid shill. Know what I find most amusing? I dismantled his entire rant in sections, using common sense and fact. None of the replies to my post have even attempted to refute my claims using the same. They’re all the equivalent of “uh uh is not”. This tells me that none of you are capable of refuting my claims on equal ground, so instead you choose to stick your fingers in your ears and ignore the truth like petulant children. It also reveals to me something about the level of your intelligence, which I admit I didn’t place on the high level since you agree with this rant. Have fun hiding in your holes, jumping in fear whenever you hear a bump coming from a dark corner. Enjoy the paranoia that fills you every time someone even mentions the word “police” I hope your tin foil hats don’t get too wrinkly while you wear them, I hear they tend to itch.

        • Jason

          So, you weren’t shot in the face. Congrats on that. If we are to take this bit of anecdotal evidence as a basis for the “goodness” of cops in general, what then do we make of the fact that more people are killed by cops in this country than military personnel have been killed in our most recent unjust war? We just ignore that and move on cuz your face is still intact? I sincerely hope you aren’t trying to say that because 8 out of 10 times you are allowed (think about that…allowed) to go on your way unmolested that this proves the justness of the police force in general despite the THOUSANDS of cases in this country wherein police officers have beaten, abused, murdered human beings who they swore to serve and protect.

          Your suggestion that we leave because taxes are unjust is entirely unreasonable. This is akin to saying that because a man breaks into my house and steals my belongings I should move to another house and simply let him continue to rob my neighbors. I think we would all agree that the correct course of action would be to take steps to prevent that individual from robbing anybody else so we could all remain in our neighborhood safe and secure. Taxation IS theft supported by force. Period. Your claim that we consented to such theft is misguided. If any consent has occurred it was done under duress and with coercion since we as subjects, er citizens, of this country have NO OTHER OPTION. Moreover, fleeing is not even an option, because any attempt to do so would result in a large TAX being placed on our assets and confiscated upon our departure.

          You mention a plethora of good cops and that they can be found via a Google search. While I am sure individuals are out there in uniform helping old ladies across the street or doing something you feel is heroic, this misses the point of the article. Cops are agents of the state whose sole purpose is to force upon the populace the agenda of the state. As such, they are by definition “bad” if they are enforcing the will of the state against the people. Any actions that they might take as individuals for which you might personally laud them is irrelevant to the point being made in this article.

          • Tyson Bradford

            Yay I get to disect and dismantle your sorry excuse for a reply. Here we go point by point.

            “what then do we make of the fact that more people are killed by cops in
            this country than military personnel have been killed in our most recent
            unjust war?”

            More than 6,717 from 2001 to present? I hope you have statistical evidence to back this up. I seriously doubt that in 13 years police have killed 6000 + people unprovoked. Sounds like a fishy claim.

            “I sincerely hope you aren’t trying to say that because 8 out of 10 times
            you are allowed (think about that…allowed) to go on your way
            unmolested”

            Yes and 10 out of 10 I was breaking the law. Yes I was “allowed” to go as opposed to being given the ticket for $200 that the officer should have rightfully given me.

            “Taxation IS theft supported by force.”

            Really? So when tax time comes, police knock on your door and wait for you to hand them the check? In fact they don’t. Truth be told you could very well do like some and write them a note telling them to kiss your ass. No one is stopping you, nor is anyone pointing a gun at your head. There is NO force being used.

            “If any consent has occurred it was done under duress and with coercion
            since we as subjects, er citizens, of this country have NO OTHER OPTION.”

            Again duress implies force, no force no duress. You’re free to refuse payment, MANY have done so. You DO have options, one of many being the mentioned Leaving the country. Other options? Don’t like the taxes? That’s what elections are for. Your representative is in congress to fight to repeal or pass the laws his constituents tell him to. If you don’t write your congressman or vote, then by refusal to state otherwise you consent to whatever happens. By KNOWING about the taxes and deciding to live in this country anyway you consent to live by the laws and rules set forth by the ruling party just as if you choose to move out of the US and into France, you would be consenting to live by the laws and rules set forth by the French government. You have options, but like everything else in life, there are consequences to taking those options. You CAN not pay your taxes as you said, and as you said a huge fine would be imposed on your assets. That is a consequence. That by no means removes your ability to choose.

            In fact in the US as I mentioned, if you don’t like the laws, and the majority feels the same you can as a whole change that law by legal means. As much as you bitch and moan, you have that option. Places such as China, North Korea, Pakistan, Iran etc…. don’t have that option. THEY are taxed through force as the police will very much show up and shoot them upon refusal, hell they’d face death by even posting comments critical of the government such as yours.

            As for cops doing good?

            http://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/videos/7193065-Fla-cop-praised-after-buying-boots-for-barefoot-homeless-man/

            http://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/7185813-Calif-cops-save-2-trapped-in-fire/

            http://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/7169993-Minn-cops-tourniquet-training-saves-life-of-woman-brutally-stabbed/

            http://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/videos/7167802-SC-officer-buys-bed-TV-Wii-for-needy-teen/

            http://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/7138272-Calif-cop-risks-life-to-rescue-DUI-suspect-from-vehicle-blaze/

            This is just a few from a single page. There’s many more that I could post. The shit ones you hear about are the minority. Saying every cop is bad because you heard of ten that actually were is like saying every soldier in Iraq is throwing puppies off cliffs and shooting Iraqi women and children. How many deaths are a result of your common civilian? More than 6000 I bet. Should I treat you as a murderer because a minority of normal civilians are? Get your head out of your ass. The world is not black and white, there’s lots of grey areas.

            A lot of what you posted has shit to do with the police, they don’t decide what gets taxed or how much, you have more say in that than they do by way of voting, writing your representative, and meetings than the cop does, especially the patrol cop. Go ahead. do some actual research. Look up the number of police officers in the US, then look up the actual number of incidents in which cops have been brutal or murderous. Find the stories of the worst, was it a cop or several cops in a single area brutalizing multiple people, or was it more blanketed through the force. Pry open your mind and realize the actions of a minority of shit officers does not diminish the great work of the majority. That’s like your boss telling you that you don’t deserve a promotion because Bob over there was always late and never got his work done on time.

    • Odotry

      “Plenty of people refuse to pay taxes, they either are arrested and jailed”

      That’s the point you moron, you’re FORCED to pay your taxes under the threat of violence and incarceration.

  • Ashley Fox

    This hardly explains how it is impossible for any cops to be good. There’s a saying that goes, “to generalize is to be an idiot”. It is most definitely true that police brutality is an epidemic and that most police officers are power hungry sociopaths. But it is not possible that every cop is bad. Just like it’s not possible that all anarchists are ignorant assholes who purely enjoy causing a shit storm for no other reason than to make trouble. Now, if you’d like to be more specific and throw out some more proof that ALL cops are bad, I may be inclined to believe it. But as of now your post isn’t even close to being specific enough to convince anyone that your opinion is correct. Sorry.

    • Dion Kerfont

      Think about something for a moment, Ashley. If there are so many “good” cops, then why aren’t there fewer bad ones? Why do the bad cops still have a job, for that matter?

      If we are complicit in a crime and jailed for it, why aren’t all these “good” cops sitting in cells next to the bad ones for knowing about these bad cops and not doing a damn thing about it? Where were all the “good” cops when Kelly Thomas was pummeled to death while he begged for his life?

      If there were truly as many “good” cops as you believe, then there would be ZERO bad cops… and those that turned bad would be dealt with swiftly with the same level of justice as the average citizen. “Good” cops are really bad cops unless they seek to clean up their own shit before they try to deal with ours.

    • billhook

      Not every cop commits criminal acts, but how many more just stand by and watch and do or say nothing? Stats are showing that at around 4 of every 5 cops haven’t acted when observing a brother officer commit an abuse of his position, when asked anonymously. So we have one out of five. If I knew I’d be violated by a certain group in four of every five encounters, I’d go ahead and treat that group as though all were out to get me – prejudice is a useful survival strategy.

  • Feliciano

    This is quite possibly the stupidest read ever. From his all taxes are theft. That means the teachers we underpay our soldiers and every single bit of government is bad. The idea that the only good cop is a lazy cop who sleeps all day. Fucking retarded. The inert want in most people to try and help others is a major reason most try to be a cop not because they wanna get shot at. The idea that cops haven’t done anything but pull over innocent drivers or arrest potheads in the biggest bs theme ever. Fuck all the drunk drivers they’ve pulled over before they hit someone.. Fuck all the crackheads who break in and rob ppl. Fuck the people they saved from drowning or any number of things they’ve done for the good. Fact is there are a lot of shitty people out there who are saved by our laws and the fear of jail. There are quite a few dumb ass people out there who serve no purpose other than to do shitty stuff to people and most of these bloggers wouldn’t have the balls to try to stop someone from robbing, raping, beating the shit out of, over all doing bad stuff to someone. Maybe the guy who is a homicide detective showed a mind for solving murders and crimes. They damn sure dont get it from writing tickets. Thats like making someone a brain surgeon just cause he was good at putting on bandaids.

    • Sam Cru

      “The inert want in most people to try and help others is a major reason most try to be a cop…” I worked with a guy who quit his job because he was offered a position as a police officer. He said his goal was to join the SWAT because he thought it would be exciting to raid drug houses. He was dumb as rocks too.

      • Feliciano

        So getting drugs out of a neighborhood isn’t a good thing? So if a firefighter enjoys getting kittens out of trees that’s bad?

        • lberns

          Your thieving government’s failed War on (some) Drugs is why there are drugs in neighborhoods to begin with. Fuck, your worship of the state runs strong.

        • Sam Cru

          Firefighters don’t kill kittens while they are getting them out of trees. Wanting to kill people over drugs is not a good thing.

        • Kitties nRainbows

          No, getting “drugs” out of neighborhoods is a rather meaningless claim. How about we start with all those old farts addicted to the king’s ransom’s worth of pills their doctors give them legally?

          • billhook

            Or alcohol, which is involved in around 100,000 deaths a year and numerous more crimes and accidents.

        • billhook

          Except it doesn’t work. The only thing that happens is our freedoms are curtailed and the cops need more officers, weapons, money and special powers (read as infringements on our rights) for the next time they fail.

    • lberns

      Do you have the right to take money from one individual and give it to another individual, or pay for services you believe others need?

    • Kitties nRainbows

      All taxes are theft. End of story. It’s not even arguable.

      You have to break through the first layer of lies that states “taxes are charity”, to get to the second layer of lies that is “taxes are necessary and good. In the past, we didn’t have that first layer- people are fairly easy to fool these days it seems.

  • Chris Partlow

    Taxes exists everywhere and it isn’t just theft it’s a payment for a being (the government) to protect us from anything that can invade our basic and other rights we have as humans. The problems arise when the government take rights away from us

  • Feliciano: “This is quite possibly the stupidest read ever.”

    I have nothing to add to Feliciano’s assessment.

  • Kevin

    FUCK the Police and FUCK Israel!

    • Who gives a fuck about what a foreign sovereign does? Do you also hate all the other foreign sovereigns that attack and murder innocent civilians, or just Israel because they’re a bunch of dirty Juice?

  • Difdi

    Anti-taxation rhetoric aside, there is another reason why good cops are mostly myths.

    Why? Because of conspiracy, accomplice and aiding/abetting statutes. If you or I were to so much as suspect a coworker had broken the law (much less heard them bragging in the locker room) and didn’t turn them in, we’d be considered complicit in their crimes and jailed in the cell next to them.

    Even if we didn’t know anything about their crimes, giving them any aid or comfort whatsoever could see us in the cell next door to theirs when they finally do get caught. A good example of such aid and comfort would be driving to give them armed backup if they call for it.

    If police were subject to the same laws you or I are, very few would stay out of prison. If the average police department were scrutinized under such legislation as the RICO Act, there are police janitors who wouldn’t be able to stay out of prison.

    • Rusty

      Exactly, a good cop becomes a bad cop the very first time he supports or don’t report a bad cop …… to the media, if the police union and police hierarchy fail to respond appropriately.

    • The law referenced above is called “Misprision of Felony” if anyone’s interested.

      • Difdi

        I do know that, but thanks to Hollywood, more people know the terms I used than are familiar with the phrase ‘misprision of felony’ — well, non-lawyers, anyway.

        • I figured you did.
          I’m not a lawyer; I’m a learner.

          I also know about an Alford Plea and in these times of such high incarceration and litigation, more people who may find themselves before a judge, should learn about this as well.

  • Copperhead

    Whatever the government does with the money which it extorts from us does not change the fact that it was extorted in the first place.

  • Cody Saun Kratzer

    I’m curious what the alternative to not paying taxes for all the comforts we have now would be. I’m assuming, and correct me if I’m wrong, that the concept would be that the people would just take up the tasks of the government themselves whether has a job or charitable service? That would be an incredible shift in the country’s dynamic. How would we even begin? Personally, I’m on board but there are a LOT of people in this country with a different opinion.

    • Kitties nRainbows

      Do you really believe taxes pay for “comforts”?

      • Cody Saun Kratzer

        I believe taxes pay for roads, schools, community parks, animal control, and many other things that we take for granted. I consider it comforting to know that when I need to get up in the morning to drive to work that the road from my house to my job is kept in proper form. So my assumption is that the alternative would be that a group of people decide to either build roads as a business or as a charitable act. I’m curious how that would work.

        • Odotry

          Roads were being built before government monopolized it. Roads aren’t built by the government BTW, they hire private construction companies to build them with YOUR tax dollars. If everything was privatized roads would be cheaper to construct with the middle man eliminated. Not to mention various companies depend on trade routes for the sake of business, so they’d have roads built to allow suppliers and customers to drive on it.

          We already have private schools, parks and animal conservation. The difference with the private ones is they’re much better tended to than government run facilities.

          • Cody Saun Kratzer

            Fair. We have now reached a point where I don’t know enough for further debate. So the question is: How do we begin?

          • Roy J Lores

            By acknowledging that you do not need the state to begin with for any of those services would be a great start.

          • Cody Saun Kratzer

            Sure. Step 1 in solving a problem: Acknowledge that you have a problem. Next?

  • Shanti Sena

    what about taggart shooting the kitten outta the tree ? wasnt he a good cop in that movie ? im confused ?

  • Shanti Sena

    once they all wear cameras and microphones that will be a step in the right driection.

    • ConservativeKasper

      In New Jersey, where I am from and where I work, all cops have microphones on them and recording devices in their cars. What the cop haters don’t understand is that the job carries very serious liability and that cops can’t pull you over for no reason. Just because you get pulled over also doesn’t mean that you will get a ticket. Having a civil conversation without being accusatory, disrespectful, argumentative, or nasty actually goes a long way. The cameras and recorders are there to protect the public and the police. Whenever I stop someone and they start recording me, I tell them that it’s already being recorded and I advise them that they can record away. If you don’t like the police and don’t want to be stopped by the police, then don’t break the law. Contrary to the opinions of the author of this post, there are good cops out there who do the job ethically. Very rarely will an “innocent” person be stopped for no reason, and when they are, it’s unfortunately by the bad cops who ruin the image of cops everywhere.

      • Christopher Cantwell

        Why would I have a civil conversation with a mugger? You don’t stop people on the highway for civil conversation, you do it to steal money and kidnap people.

        • David Bel

          They are simply domestic terrorists

      • Christopher Cantwell

        You should read the article, the fact that you get paid by taxation and enforce “laws” that create victims instead of helping them is evidence enough that there’s no such thing as a good cop.

        • japanusrelations

          Wait, are you telling him to read the article? He did read it and disagrees with some of your opinions (note, this article that you wrote is your opinion and entirely subjective), so you tell him to read it again, implying that someone who disagrees with you must be a moron. I am all for smaller government, but to paint a picture in which every law enforcement officer is either corrupt or evil is just a gross oversimplification of a complex subject. If we had less laws and less government, we would still need a police force; even my (recently law enforcement harrassed) friend Tony Stiles would agree with that.

          • This is the problem.
            Statists apparently don’t believe in any absolutes. They feel there is no true “right or wrong” and everything is relative.
            If a statute is written by the Superior Beings in the legislatures, it is right and good unless another more Superior Being in a court says otherwise. And the enforcers of these laws, by extension, are also good.
            Kasper the (allegedly) friendly pig just cannot grasp the idea that it is always wrong to use violence against another to force them to comply with what you think is right. He (and you) have no moral compass and I personally think you should be exiled.

          • japanusrelations

            There are no absolutes; morality was created by man and changes from society to society and through the ages. And as far as being a ‘statist’, I’d like to congratulate you on your misinformed opinion, but am afraid that you wouldn’t detect the sarcasm.

          • exiled

          • japanusrelations

            LOL, good luck with that, farm boy.

        • Raul Smith

          We can safely assume you are a moron! Does the statement make it fact. No, just my opinion. I don’t agree with many laws and don’t like paying taxes, but does that statement make me right and everyone else wrong, no again it is just my opinion.

          He doesn’t agree with your opinion and reading this worthless article again will not change anything.

          Ok, we understand you do not like or support this great country. Yes we can assume you are anti-american and prove it almost every post. If you hate this country so much, move! I here the Nigeria, Sudan, Burundi, Congo, Somalia, Pakistan or Afghanistan don’t believe in many of any laws. These places sound like a great place for you.

          • No it’s Somalia. You apparently haven’t been reading the states directives. Get it together man!

      • pbfrank13

        You are implying all laws are just. Tell me more about how speed limits are determined and what the purpose of hiding to catch speeders is instead of being visible and having warnings about hazardous speeds?

        Going faster than the posted speed limit (GSP 55-65 and the turnpike/interstate are 65 mostly with some exceptions), is not, in and of itself, dangerous. If the flow of the traffic is 15 or 20mph above the posted limit on a straightaway is safe, it is actually more dangerous to be going slower. Why do you find it just to ticket people anyway?

        You aren’t protecting shit, you are a road pirate plain and simple. (maybe not you specifically if you aren’t a trooper, but lets face it, the majority of them are there for revenue and not safety/protection/prevention). Innocent is a misleading word as well. People possessing a harmless plant are innocent. Yet the state says its legal to drink alcohol which is far more dangerous. Oh, and NJ just made it illegal to drive ‘distracted’ which means eating, drinking, or doing anything is a ticket-able offense. Seat-belts laws are specifically for revenue as well as are red-light cameras. You work for the biggest and baddest mafia around and seem to be quite proud of it.

      • David Bel

        Cops “can’t pull you over for no reason?”

        Hahahaha, wow, what ridiculous nonsense. Yeah, they never ever break the law and are all heroes. They never lie, cheat, assault, etc, etc roger what they want. It is corruption on a level that’s almost incomprehensible. Saying there are “good cops” is like saying there are “good” members of the Taliban or Al Qaeda

    • Christopher Cantwell

      What makes you think cameras are going to solve anything? Most of the crimes these scum commit are perfectly legal.

      • Difdi

        Quite a few things they do are in fact NOT legal, by the written law. There are no law enforcement exemptions to most laws they violate, the courts simply refuse to allow prosecution.

        At best, they refer to case law that is so obfuscated non-lawyers have little hope of even finding it, much less understanding it. More commonly, they just ignore their oaths and duty.

        For any other group of people, getting away with things because of a long history of corruption would make it WORSE, but for cops it makes it okay.

  • Charles Bigblack

    Please don’t think this is factual… It’s soo horribly written and bias. It’s just dumb..really dum

  • Darris Hawks

    Not all taxation is theft. You could argue that the buyer is choosing to pay the sales tax because it is inherent in the increased price, but that’s a cop out.

    What if we tax things that shouldn’t belong in private hands in the first place? Or if we tax the destruction of what belongs to everyone?

    Example 1: No one created land, before the introduction of landed property, anyone could traverse or labor upon it, after some guy claimed it, suddenly they have to ask permission. You could tax the exclusion of others from land. If you’re going to say that no one can use your land, you owe the ones you’re excluding compensation. The same thing goes for all natural resources- if you chop down a forest, you pay the tax, if you chop down your own tree farm, you don’t.
    But if you don’t accept that:
    Example 2: The environment affects and belongs to everyone. If someone wants to pump/dump toxic chemicals into the environment, we ought to be able to tax that because you’re harming what belongs to everyone. Emissions taxes are not theft. You don’t have to agree to them. You’re paying restitution, not for a service.

    • Kitties nRainbows

      If it is not voluntary, it is theft. There is no way around this central fact.

      • Darris Hawks

        But restitution is not necessarily voluntary and certainly not theft. Are you saying that if you smash my windows, you wouldn’t be morally liable for the damage you caused? If I forced you to pay damages, would I be stealing? I would say that you refusing to pay damages would be stealing.

        In the case of some taxes, you had no rightful claim not to pay the community in the first place. For example, if you own land in a prime location, no one else can use that land- you will have given yourself a privilege. And you didn’t even make that land. It was there before you even existed. Why shall we not tax land values?

        Sorry for reviving this 7 months later.

  • “Because the other thing that we know is, cops have quotas, or at least,
    some expectation that they will go out and generate revenue, like any
    other job.”
    I am running for Sheriff of Boulder County, CO this November on a platform of non-punishment and universal love. Why love? Because I will direct law-enforcement to act out of love (mutual understanding), and not greed (quotas) or fear (guns and armor). Municipal police and the alphabet agencies are all essentially private security, and must answer to the sheriff or be de-deputized. I’ll make up for the fines by going after the frackers and big banks.
    https://www.facebook.com/SheriffOfLove
    http://sheriffoflove.org

  • Kip Beebe

    Your posts are informative and sometimes funny… But your rational is dilusional… Don’t mistake my viewing of a Facebook site as condolences of your schizophrenic fantasies… If it wasn’t for cops you would never be alive to post these memes. Iguarantee you are so.e college going geek who warriors up behind a keyboard and depends on them to save your ass when you go out and get bullied by the big kids.

    • Sam Cru

      The only people who have ever bullied me are the police.

    • lberns

      So what you are basically saying is that if we didn’t have a violent coercive gang of thugs protecting us, we’d have violent coercive gangs of thugs attacking us. And on top of that, we would just let it happen to us, because we are too weak and cowardly to defend ourselves.

  • david

    The only negative thing I have to say about this article is taxes have only been around since 1909. Ever thing else is spot on.

  • lberns

    Road Pirates!

  • Johnny Mick

    At least you got the Asshole part correct

  • paendragon

    Pretty sure the illegal and never-vetted IRS legislation occurred long after said slave-owners’ 230-year-old document was first created.

    😉

    PS:
    Let’s not forget all the other (dept. of EDUCATION?!) SWAT teams etc!

  • paendragon

    Here’s a standard rant about cops a friend of mine always posts; I’m not gonna accredit it to him here, unless he later asks me to, because Big Brother *might* be spying on us! Here it is anyway:

    “Police are inherently self serving egotists. The personality traits that law enforcement attracts is somewhere between the devil and a control freak. They are not there to serve and protect but there to boost their fragile egos by “busting heads and inflicting pain;” most are would-be mercs who cannot face adversity or danger so they become cops.

    I’ve posted this before and it is always apropos: Dear Cops:

    The point of this isn’t to judge whether cops are justified in doing what they do. This article has nothing to do with police training. And this isn’t just about American cops. This is about the perception that we, the public, have of you when you perform the following actions. It doesn’t matter if you disagree with these perceptions, because right or wrong, they exist. The point of this posting is to simply let you know that we’re watching, and this is how we see things.

    1. When ten of you show up to make one arrest, it makes you look like cowards. On my way home from a bike ride, I saw three arrests being made in under an hour in a relatively safe part of the city. At one of the incidents, eight police cruisers responded to make one arrest. The guy who was arrested was ejected for being too drunk in a bar. Just one guy and he was drunk. He had a stupid moustache, hadn’t hurt anyone and was drunkenly walking home when he was tased and tackled by 3 cops before 6 police cruisers showed up in addition to the two that were there, for a total of 8 cruisers and 10 cops. The man was unarmed.

    How much backup do you need? It’s one guy. If you can’t handle one drunk guy by yourself, you shouldn’t be a cop. Training tells you otherwise? Well stop being trained by sissies.

    2. When you tase somebody who IS NOT trying to escape, it makes you look like lazy cowards. A taser IS NOT a remote-control for people. Want to talk to someone? Then walk over to them and talk. Don’t tase them and expect them to cooperate. Also, when someone is being tased and is writhing in cardiac arrest on the ground, they aren’t “resisting arrest” by not getting on their knees and neatly kowtowing to your demands. They’re incapacitated. You look like idiots barking orders at them when they can’t move.

    Being a cop has certain risks associated with it. If you aren’t comfortable with those risks, don’t take the job. Always trying to minimize your risk of injury at the expense of others by being a taser-happy lunatic makes you look like lazy sissies.

    Tasing everyone you see because they might pose a risk to you is like spraying everything with a fire extinguisher so it doesn’t catch fire. Part of the problem might be that many cops are overweight and out of shape. If you fatsos can’t chase someone down, then you shouldn’t be cops. Studies have shown that not being a lardo is just as effective as using a taser.

    3. When you set up speed traps, it makes you look like you don’t have anything better to do. I get happy every time I see a speed trap, because I assume it means all criminals have been locked up, you’ve caught the guys who broke into my car on three separate occasions and my stolen property will be returned shortly, right idiots? Good job guys, take a break and make some scratch for the city. Because why the hell else would you be sitting on your butt in a ditch if that wasn’t the case?

    People who speed are awesome. The last thing this world needs is more slow drivers. Traffic jams occur because of idiots braking prematurely. And when you pull people over, how about doing it in a place that doesn’t obstruct traffic? You know what’s just as “unsafe” as speeding? Having to swerve into another lane because your stupid car is blocking traffic.Every time I pass another cruiser parked in two lanes, backing up traffic for miles, it makes me literally punch myself in the jaw until I pass out.

    4. When you give out imbecilic tickets for rolling through stop-signs at 3 AM, or closing down lemonade stands, it makes us think you’re morons. We know that “the law is the law.” We also know that you’re not instruction-executing robotic automatons. When you harass us with nonsensical fees and fines, it makes us question your judgment. We know that this kind of trash is all about the money.

    Remember that case in Florida where a pair of LEOs closed down a lemonade stand operated by a 6 and 9 year old girl, because they didn’t have a permit? The legal age for entering into contract in the United States is 18. So that effort to charge them fees by making them apply for a permit? Illegal. Law is the law, right? Arrest yourselves. And speaking of nepotism…

    5. We know you guys use the buddy system to get out of speeding tickets. And it infuriates us to no end. Cops have a code that basically amounts to always letting fellow cops go.

    When a cop pulls over an off-duty officer, the officer who was pulled over discreetly flashes his badge to let him know that he’s on the force, and he’s simply let go. You think we don’t know what’s going on, jerk-wads? It’s a courtesy not extended to anyone else, lest the officer is having a particularly good day and isn’t PMS-ing all over the highway.

    Sometimes you write tickets for going 1 Mile over the speed limit, sometimes it’s 10 Miles. Then when you get called on doing something stupid like writing a ticket to someone for a law that shouldn’t be enforced and rarely is (like jay-walking in New York), you hide behind your tired mantra that it’s the law and that you have to be consistent. Except when you aren’t.

    6. When you flash your lights just to get through intersections, you look like scumbags. I’ve followed cops who’ve done this, only to see them park their cruisers for coffee or lunch. And speaking of lunch…

    7. When you park in a red zone to eat, it makes you look like lazy scumbags. The argument can be made that police officers need to be near their cruisers at all times in case of an emergency. Fine, but that doesn’t entitle you to eat at the most popular restaurants. If you want to eat at some trendy restaurant, park at a meter and pay, like everyone else. Can’t find a meter? Tough luck, go someplace else. Doctors, surgeons, rescue workers and security all have important jobs where people’s lives are at stake, and you don’t see their cars popped up on the curb, obstructing traffic and parked illegally so they can fill their fat faces with lunch. We know you’ll never get written a ticket (see #5), it infuriates us, and it makes us trust you less, and cooperate less.

    Now this is the part where I say “I know that police officers have a tough job,” but they don’t. Being a cop isn’t hard, it’s dangerous. There’s a difference. Being an engineer, teacher or airline pilot is hard. Being a logger, deep sea crab fisher, coal miner or firefighter is hard and dangerous. Being a cop is dangerous, but usually not hard. Driving around, issuing moronic tickets and filling out paperwork isn’t hard, it’s annoying.

    This is also the part where I say “now I know that most cops are
    good,” but I don’t. I only know two ex-cops (and they both quit the force rather than remain douches) in real life, and they’re both awesome, but so is anyone I choose to call my friend. Most cops I see abuse their power every day by parking illegally, talking on their cell phones while driving, drifting in and out of lanes without turn signals, flashing their lights to get out of intersections and power tripping like crazy. If you’re a cop who’s reading this, rather than being butt-hurt by people’s perceptions of you, do something to change it. Write a fellow officer a ticket. Stick your neck out for us, rather than your colleague for a change. Do the right thing. We notice.

    And as for us: record cops. Record them all the time. Record them even if they’re not doing anything. Cops are cracking down on this and they’re trying to change the laws to make it illegal so they can’t be held accountable for breaking the law. They look up your plates every time they’re behind you at a stop, even if you haven’t done anything, just to check up on you. It’s time we started checking up on them. Who watches the watchers, if you will.

    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!”

    😉

    • Leanne Here KittyKitty Mags

      I’m ‘borrowing’ this! Thanks!

      • paendragon

        I know for a fact he’d want it to be shared far and wide!

        😉

    • danny b

      right, and i’m sure you personally know SO MANY police officers that your judgment is well-founded.

    • David Bel

      You’re right, they’re just fat, lazy, stupid cowards and terrorists!! There is one set of laws for people like them and another set for everyone else. This just highlights the fact that they authority is in no way legitimate and should never be recognized as such!!

  • Jeff Godley

    I would love to respond to this. However, that would require thinking, and thinking is so hard. Plus, I run the risk of discovering that the truths that I have been spoon-fed for my entire life, and now must desperately cling to, are actually bald-faced lies. Then I’d have to examine my worldview (not sure what that is… a libertarian told me it was a thing). And think some more. Way too inconvenient.

    Instead, please accept any or all of the following mindless talking points as a substitute for an argument:

    1. Somalia
    2. Social Contract
    3. My friend/relative who was/is a cop
    4. Anarchy is bad becuz reasons
    5. Expletive-ridden insult against author and those who agree with him.

    Thank you, and may the odds be ever in your favour. And don’t forget: we’ve ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia!

  • itsa

    What the hell kind of nigger town do you people live in? Around here, the cops protect us. Theres bad ones out there, just as there are good cops. There are good doctors, just as there are bad ones. Theyve helped me tremendously. Heres a tip….. dont break the fucking law and there will be no need for them. Im talking about laws that effect the general public and are in place for the safety of the public. Without them would be anarchy. Get a hobby. You guys must be autistic or something

    • Kitties nRainbows

      Lies.

  • JFKToo

    It’s shame you have run out of things to talk about. You come across like a spoiled little child. Anyone that can’t give you your own way every time is a problem for you. Isn’t it? Get a pacifier and suck real hard.

  • JFKToo

    What a coward, you removed my post. You are obviously a democrat.

    • JFKToo

      And I do mean you Mr. Cant tell you shit. (Cantwell)

      • Kitties nRainbows

        How old are you?

  • LastManOutTheDoor

    Mostly well said except for the “slave owners part”. Now you are just showing your sheeple side. Go learn some history instead of spoon fed lies.

  • The Bajeezus

    Agreed on the cop part, there’s no such thing as a good guy cop, but not on the tax part. I approve of taxation, it would just be nice to have more say in where my taxes go. Especially in this day and age, with the internet, just give me some check boxes so I can choose infrastructure and education over police and military. We can vote as a people how we want to be governed in that way. But like you said, that’s a matter for another article.

    Good work on the site and Facebook page, guy. Keep it up. Expose these bastards for us!

    • Kitties nRainbows

      So you approve of the use of aggressive force to take money from people?

      Isn’t there another way?

      • Please point out to me where suggested he is in favor of the use of force on people? I somehow missed it.

        • Zach

          Taxes are confiscated by force. Don’t believe me? Don’t pay your taxes for years and see what happens. It’s racketeering, most pay the protection fee to avoid violent thugs kicking in their doors.

      • The Bajeezus

        I believe that in order to have society you need to participate in it, financially and in other ways. I don’t believe people can be trusted to contribute their fair share willingly. However we pool our money for infrastructure, education, and the service of the less fortunate is good for me, and if you have a better idea than taxes, I’m happy to consider it. Compulsory taxes seems to be the only way, but I do think we should consider having some more autonomy over where it goes.

  • xXrefuseRESISTXx

    When a cop sees another cop abusing his authority, assaulting, or killing someone, and pulls out his gun and shoots the other cop in the face, then you can tell me about good cops

  • PithHelmut

    I give nobody the permission over my life not even for one second unless expressly stated. Opting out is the manipulator’s wank. Don’t fall for it in ANY form. The correct procedure is always to OPT IN.

  • ConservativeKasper

    I am a cop. Despite the wide array of attacks and assumptions present in your post, I am not responding to engage in an argument but rather to have a mature conversation and better understand your/the public’s point of view. I am going to start off by saying that I have been a cop for about two years and I am currently contemplating switching careers. In the short time that I have been a cop, I understand wholeheartedly why people do not like cops. Maybe someday I will be looking from the same side of the fence that you are on, but I would like to share some perspective.

    I am somewhat perturbed by your conviction that there are no “good guy” cops. I am no saint, but I consider myself to be a decent person who chose my career for the right reasons. If cops are thieves because taxes and state funding finance their salaries, then every single state employee should be considered a criminal. I, more than anyone else, can understand why some people may dislike cops. However, what offends me is this blanket argument that ALL cops are bad. I think it is the same line of thinking that racists and homophobes have. It is the assumption that all people of a certain type are exactly the same, and it is an attitude based on hate without knowledge.

    I became a cop because of situations in my life. Right out of college, I had a really bad job where I was getting criminally mistreated by my boss. During this time in my life, someone extremely close to me was killed by a drunk driver. One of my friends was a cop. He taught me about the job and the ability to help people and hopefully prevent the same hardships that I encountered was the motivating factor in my taking the job.

    I am not a dumb person. I was a Division I athlete, I have a Master’s degree, and I graduated my Police Academy number one. I felt like law enforcement was my vocation and that it would be the best way to provide for myself, my family, and the community I serve. My ambitions were to make a positive difference. Now, as I get deeper into my career, I find that it is not as fulfilling as I thought it would be. I may change. But I do not think I deserve to be called a bad guy or evil.

    In closing, a legitimate curiosity that I have is why people like you are so against/infatuated with the police. I never gave the police any thought whatsoever until I decided to become a cop. I fail to understand why websites like cop block exist, because if I wasn’t a cop, I wouldn’t give them any thought. Second, and perhaps more importantly, maybe some cops act unethically, but I know that I do not pull people over or make arrests unless I have probable cause to do so. I have been pulled over twice in my life, and both times I was in the wrong. Usually when I pull people over, it is a respectful interaction that does NOT result in a ticket if the person understands why they were stopped and isn’t nasty. Whenever someone acts like they hate me and are pissed they were stopped, I simply say that the best offense is a good defense and that if they don’t like the police and don’t want to be stopped that they shouldn’t speed, run red lights, talk on the cell phone while driving, etc. You don’t have to like cops, but if you don’t want to get pulled over, don’t break the law.

    If you took the time to read my long winded reflection, I am appreciative. I am again not posting to incite an argument but rather to share my perspective because I am legitimately curious about how I can improve my own relations with the public. I have been nothing but respectful in my post, and I would appreciate the same in any responses.

    • Jason

      ‘If cops are thieves because taxes and state funding finance their salaries, then every single state employee should be considered a criminal.”

      Every single state employee is indeed a leech upon the system, but teachers/garbage men/etc do not rob/beat/kill the general public under the guise of “protecting” and “serving.”

      “what offends me is this blanket argument that ALL cops are bad… It is the assumption that all people of a certain type are exactly the same, and it is an attitude based on hate without knowledge”

      No, it is an attitude based on an understanding of how the system works. Cops, by definition, are the enforcers of the state’s agenda: ALL of them. It does not matter what their private beliefs or morality might be, their function is to enFORCE the agenda of the state upon the populace, period.

      “a legitimate curiosity that I have is why people like you are so against/infatuated with the police. I never gave the police any thought whatsoever until I decided to become a cop. I fail to understand why websites like cop block exist, because if I wasn’t a cop, I wouldn’t give them any thought.”

      If you have spent ANY time on CopBlock at all, then you wouldn’t have the gall to even ask this question.

      “Usually when I pull people over, it is a respectful interaction that does NOT result in a ticket if the person understands why they were stopped and isn’t nasty. Whenever someone acts like they hate me and are pissed they were stopped, I simply say that the best offense is a good defense and that if they don’t like the police and don’t want to be stopped that they shouldn’t speed, run red lights, talk on the cell phone while driving, etc. You don’t have to like cops, but if you don’t want to get pulled over, don’t break the law.”

      The underlying assumption in this entire line of reasoning is that you, as a designated representative of the magical State, have some sort of authority over me and are authorized to prevent me from going about my business based on some arbitrary decision you made at that moment that may very well have been influenced by a disagreeable conversation with your wife, poor sleep the night before, or any number of other reasons. You have admitted as much already: If I am nice and do what you say, I don’t get a ticket. If I have the audacity to insist on my liberty and my right to be free from your abuse, I am given a lecture, a fine, or possibly imprisonment or death. Surely you see this, right?

    • AlanABQ

      “You don’t have to like cops, but if you don’t want to get pulled over, don’t break the law”
      But that’s about 80% of the argument against police; it’s unreasonable to demand that every person who ventures out of his/her house be aware at all times of every law that they might potentially “break”, especially when new laws are enacted every year.
      Most laws are arbitrary rules that are arbitrarily enforced. And the foundation for those arbitrary rules stem from one or maybe even a few incidents where someone you’ve never met did something you didn’t know about in a manner that had nothing to do with you or over 99+% of the rest of the population.
      Traffic laws, in theory, seem like a good idea. Right? But if a misdemeanor traffic law is “violated”, what exactly makes it a crime? Who exactly, in such a scenario, is the victim – the state?
      The public?
      Someone who saw it happen & thought it was unfair that they were obeying the same law whilst another “broke it”?
      To further such a ridiculous scenarion, the punishment for the above scenario is also just as arbitrary; I can be “let go with a warning”, get a ticket, get several tickets for incidental violations, or I can be arrested (kidnapped) and taken to a cage for humans and held for ransom…
      …all based primarily on my attitude.

      In other words, I could commit a traffic violation but if I did with a sweet smile or demeanor (or even better, if I were an attractive female)- then it’s OK… but if I was in a bad mood & openly pissed off at the fact that my time & money were being wasted over whatever arbitrary rule I’m alleged to have trespassed against, then I’m basically fucked.

      And then you guys are perplexed as to why people are resentful against cops.
      By the way, the above example was a pretty tame hypothetical situation. The reality of it gets a WHOLE lot worse: I didn’t allude to the copious examples of bribes, favors, threats of violence, ACTUAL violence, sex abuse, and that list goes on & on ad nauseum.

  • Jock Doubleday

    There is no law that says income tax is required for people in the U.S. . . . (Washington, D.C. is not in the U.S., by the way; it’s its own city-state completely outside the jurisdiction of the U.S.) Income tax is paid voluntarily. If you don’t pay income tax, the criminal unlawful and illegal agency known as the I.R.S. will come knocking and they will take your money or your house or your belongings or all three by force. The income tax began in 1913 with the creation of the I.R.S. and the “Federal” Reserve.

  • Guest

    I love this one:

  • Merovie

    ….

  • Brett Ray

    I have to ask, are you a good cop?

    This is me and I’m
    not a cop.

    I am the guy who
    pulls over in the rain to help someone with a flat tire.

    I am the guy who
    stops to help push a stranded car out of the road to help everyone. Not only
    the car owner but all the other drivers being slowed down as well.

    I am the guy that
    will help a struggling business by providing them with services they need at
    low cost and sometimes even free.

    I am the guy who goes
    to the school meetings and provide services to the schools and parks for free.

    I am the guy who
    steps up and coaches and donates my time to help kids.

    I am the guy who
    spends 200 hours of my time and a $1000 of my own money to put on a music
    concert in the park for everyone to attend, free. Hoping to help out local
    musicians and bring people together for a better community.

    I am one that will
    stand up for you or anyone in need.

    If I see an injustice
    being done to someone, I will come to their aid.

    If I see someone in
    need of help, I will help them. No questions asked.

    I will come to the
    aid of the ones who are to weak, meek or afraid to defend themselves.

    I am neither weak,
    meek nor afraid.

    I don’t care about
    the so called consequences afterward for doing what’s right.

    I’m not going to
    stand by and watch someone being mistreated and abused by bullies or thugs.

    I simply WILL NOT
    stand for it!

    Apparently that makes
    be a bad guy, a menace to society.

    Because I stand up
    for myself and others.

    Because I don’t need
    ANYONE’s permission to do what’s right.

    Because I don’t need
    to call someone with a delusional sense of authority over my life to tell me
    what to do or not to do.

    Because I didn’t ask
    for help and don’t require any help from police, ever.

    Because I would never
    ever call the police for anything and I tell them that, they get their tiny,
    little panties in a bunch and over inflated egos hurt.

    They are so willing
    to try to ruin someone’s life to boost their own low self-esteem and lack of
    self worth. To try feed their lust for power and perceived self importance by
    making things up and escalating every situation they are involved in, it
    boggles the mind.

    They try to make
    themselves feel tuff by trying to turn everything into a fight. People usually
    don’t fight back; they take this as they though they are somehow superior and
    controlling the situation. When in truth, it’s simply people NOT fighting back,
    and that’s because of fear of the legal implications that may follow, not fear
    of the police officers themselves. Most of the time the people didn’t do
    anything to warrant the escalated situation to begin, and don’t want to make it
    any worse legally.

    I am willing to stand
    for and with anyone if you are on the side of righteousness.

    I don’t care your
    social status, skin color or who you are.

    I don’t care about
    your job, I am just as willing to help police if they are in the right as I
    would help protect someone from them if the police are in the wrong.

    I won’t compromise my
    morals and integrity for a simple pay check.

    Will you?

    And before you tell
    me there are good cops out there, let me say this. There are some, and I know a
    couple, of “good men” who are or were cops. I would come to their aid
    anytime for anything if they need me. They are good friends. I’m saying
    “Good Cop” not good man.

    A good cop wouldn’t
    lie to cover for the bad one’s doing wrong.

    A good cop would
    arrest another cop for DUI, not give them a ride home.

    A good cop would stop
    others from lying about what really happened to some victims of police abuse.

    A good cop wouldn’t
    do things illegal like speeding, just because they can get away with it.

    A good cop would hold
    himself and other cops to a higher standard than the general public, not lower.

    It’s simple really, A
    “GOOD COP” would do what’s RIGHT, even if it meant losing his job.
    After all, it’s just a job, nothing more. Don’t expect my automatic respect,
    admiration or sympathy for how dangerous a cop’s job is (it’s statistically
    more dangerous to be a trash man) or accept without question a cop’s take on
    something because of the job THEY chose. You want my respect, EARN IT! What is
    a job compared to the countless families that have been ripped apart, lives
    ruined, devastated financially or worse, had love ones killed over lies by, and
    cover ups for the bad cops?

    So again I ask, are
    you a good cop?

  • Doug Emery

    The fact that there are bad cops prove that good cops don’t exist!!!! If the good cops were so ‘good’ then bad cops wouldn’t exist….

  • limn

    Figures that ‘copblock’ would be mentioned in this article. I believed their claim at first that the mission of this organization is to keep cops honest when in fact they spit on every small infraction a cop makes. It may as well be an organization for people who hate authority and got a few too many speeding tickets.
    Keep knocking them until your home is broken into.

    • David Triana

      Then I will just shoot the intruder. Get a clue, mankind existed for thousands of years before there were cops and we did just fine without them.

      • limn

        Sure thing, when there were less than half a billion people on the planet. Not everybody is ready to go Chuck Norris on every uninvited guest in their home.

        • Roy J Lores

          Chuck Norris? There are devices called guns just for that purpose.

          • Guest

            It’s fools like you and all the rest here that want to get rid of the police and go back to the old west. Get over yourself Yosemite Sam not everyone wants your shoot ’em up country. If you don’t like cops the next time you have someone break in call a hippy drug addict

  • 44Grim

    You’re a freaking idiot. All tax isn’t theft, it’s a way to pay for the things we enjoy by sharing the load.

    We enjoy roads, technology services (subsidized by the government, but also cost more due to the government) and defense from the military. This kind of article is the worst kind.

    • Odotry

      If tax isn’t theft then why are you arrested when you don’t pay them?

      Roads and technology have been and are already built without government subsidy. “Defense from the military” The militaries of the world are responsible for the most heinous crimes in history from the Holocaust to the Gulags. You need defense FROM them, not by them.

  • William

    I have read through some comments and wonder why people get so mad at his opinion. It makes me laugh. Did anyone read the About Christopher Cantwell section? LOL

  • danny b

    what are you twelve years old? Taxation is theft, ok. So firemen are bad guys too right? And you of course never drive on roads, or turn on your water, or put the trash out, right Chris?

    adolescent nonsense.

  • delmert

    So what if the author runs his car off the road and slowly Bleeds to death because none of the Tax leaches save him.

  • Steve

    Were you born this fucking stupid or did you have to work at it?

  • James Hepler

    This is some real BS right here. I want my two minutes back.

  • David Bel

    Right, taxes are just a way of “legally” stealing money from people. I put legally in quotes bc their actions are not legal at all. It is an illusion that serves to fool most of the dumb sheep into believing it is actually justified to victimize and steal from us. None of their laws are truly legal

  • Christopher C

    it’s a racket and a scam all built around protecting The Great Whore vagina’s… women are 98% behind all problems, the rest, just bad choices. Learn to walk away and avoid the human garbage in life that just doesn’t get it, people… most police themselves, cops are a scam… and we all know it, they have no oversight… so why should you?

  • Ari

    Instead of complaining about taxes, what do you propose is done instead? I honesty can’t think of any way we can have a civilized society with teachers, schools, paved roads, health inspectors, clean streets, road signs, etc. without taxes. How do you suggest we fund these items? (Not trying to be a smartass, but I’m genuinely curious)