#YesAllWomen is Complete Nonsense

In the last few days, ever since Elliot Rodger’s killing spree in California, media has been absolutely buzzing with hysterical propaganda against guns, men, and white people. Should you happen to be a white male gun owner, you might well be Satan himself according to some of these people. I’m torn between laughing at it, and hiding under my bed. On the one hand, the information is just so blatantly false that one is tempted to simply ridicule the people spewing it, on the other, it is a very real threat to my safety.

So far I’ve focused on the gun control aspect of it, because that’s generally the go to after any shooting. It was a pretty good bet, because predictably this was pinned to the NRA by many. It matters not to them, that half the killings were carried out with a knife, several injuries were caused by a vehicle, and the shooting took place in California where guns are all but outlawed. When have facts ever been a part of the gun grabber’s argument?

The more disturbing trend is one I’ve also been combating here for some time. Radical feminists and “anti-racists” who demonize men and white people. Some of you may have thought I was crazy for battling back and forth with the likes of Antonio Buehler and Cathy Reisenwitz, but I sincerely hope the recent frenzy shows you why I’ve taken these problems so seriously.

I was shocked and terrified to hear Elizabeth Plank say “This is a white male thing” on MSNBC, despite the fact that Elliot Rodger was half Asian.

#YesAllWomen Is Complete Nonsense
#YesAllWomen Is Complete Nonsense

The discussion of Elliot Rodger’s killing spree is now revolving around “misogyny” and led to the hashtag #YesAllWomen trending on twitter. Now, there’s no question that Rodger had serious issues with women. He was a 22 year old virgin, and if you watch his YouTube channel you can understand why. He is said to have been diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome at a young age, he was very socially awkward, and he was not masculine in his appearance or mannerisms. These are all good reasons to legalize prostitution, not go out and murder a bunch of people.

Just like the gun control fanatics focus on guns with absolute blindness to the absurdity of their case, so do the radical feminists focus on “misogyny”. Never mind the fact that Rodger actually killed twice as many men as he did women. The #YesAllWomen hashtag claims that all women live in fear of violence from men, feeding into this insane narrative of an over looming, “patriarchy” victimizing and oppressing all women. To them, Elliot Rodger is just one example of this horrific life that women must suffer through at the hands of their male abusers.

Now, it’s absolutely true that men do most of the violence in this world. Be it by nature or nurture, this is how we’ve turned out, and for better or worse this is the situation that we’re in. If you ask me, the effort to change this by encouraging men to behave more like women is how you get guys like Elliot Rodger. He was an effeminate guy who considered himself the “perfect gentleman”. Women predictably didn’t find this attractive at all, the strategy failed miserably, and it drove him out of his mind. This kind of social engineering is unnatural and destructive and easy to predict. In any case, the fact that men do most of the violence in society has upsides and downsides for women.

On the upside, it means that the necessary violence in the world can take place without their participation. Men, for the most part, are more than happy to be the defenders of women. Regular readers of my blog know that I am not shy about discussing defensive force, but I deplore violence and seek not to engage in it. Still, if I saw a man harassing or assaulting a woman, I would absolutely put myself in harm’s way to defend her. I wouldn’t even have to think about it or size up her attacker, it’s just my role in society to do this and I would be less of a man if I didn’t play my part. If I get injured in the process, that’s between me and the attacker, the woman owes me nothing for doing this. I would not necessarily do the same thing for a man. In my book he is responsible for his own defense, and assisting him would be an act of charity on my part. I would hesitate, size up the attacker, gauge my likelihood of stopping the attack or of being harmed myself, and then make a calculated decision whether or not to intervene, instead of rushing head on into danger as I would instinctively do for the female.

On the downside, this means women are largely defenseless, especially in places with strict gun control laws. If violence is a foreign and scary thing to you, then when someone wants to do violence against you, defense does not come naturally. Since women hold the thing that men want most in this world, this can lead to them being raped, a thing which women rightfully fear.

However, this narrative that women are somehow disproportionately effected by violence from men is pure nonsense. The fact of the matter is, men are far more likely to do violence to other men, than to women.

According to the US Census Bureau, men are more than three times as likely to be murdered than women.
According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, men are consistently more likely to be victims of any violent crime, at a rate of 29.1 for men to 23.3 for women, and for serious violent crime the rate is 10.2 for men, to 9.9 for women.
If you don’t exclude prison from the equation, men are raped more often than women in the United States.

The numbers change when we talk about domestic violence situations, but only slightly.

Women commit more than 40% of domestic violence crimes reported in the UK.
For every 100 men who kill their wives, 75 women kill their husbands.

We can bet that the numbers are actually higher than this, because society doesn’t much care when women do violence to men. Just look at this video of how a crowd reacts when a man puts his hands on a woman, compared to how they react when the woman does far more violence to the man. People intervene when the man touches the woman, but laugh when the woman strikes the man.

When it comes to government oppression, the numbers are absolutely terrifying for men.

According to the Prison Policy Initiative, men are more than ten times as likely to go to prison than women in the United States. People will point out that men commit more crimes than women, but not at a ratio of 10:1. According to the FBI, men are roughly three times more likely to be arrested for a crime, but ten times more likely to go to prison for it. According to a 2011 Study by the University of San Fransisco, women guilty of capital murder are far less likely than men to be sentenced to death, and defendants who kill women are far more likely to be sentenced to death than defendants who kill men.

In war, men do most of the fighting, so it makes sense that they take most of the combat casualties. But did you know that men also make up a disproportionate number of civilian fatalities in war? Gender stereotypes that equate a human’s sex with its specific role in combat can result in viewing all men as potential combatants, while rarely ever questioning women’s placement in the category of civilians.

With all this in mind, what exactly is it that you feminists are freaking out about? The fact of the matter is, you’re safer than you have ever been. You’re far safer than men will ever be, and for the most part we’re actually pretty okay with this. Why are you trying to redefine rape? Why are you demonizing we who protect you? Why are you so offended that we are organizing to protect ourselves from your legislative and social engineering agendas? Why all this focus on the Men’s Rights Movement?

I’m a contributor to A Voice for Men, one of the most recognized outlets for Men’s Rights Activists (MRA’s). You accuse us of “misogyny”, but you do not link to any specific incidents. You do not quote anything from our publication. You make non-specific references to forum posts by unknown persons in unknown places. Like all of this gender hysteria that you feminists are drumming up, there’s absolutely no basis in reality for these allegations. There’s certainly nobody from this publication advocating violence against women, even as women increasingly call for government violence against us. If we were calling for violence, we certainly wouldn’t have Stefan Molyneux as a featured speaker at our upcoming conference in Detroit.

Elliot Rodger was a killer. Unjustifiable initiatory violence was the issue, and that sort of behavior is universally opposed by men’s rights advocates, by libertarians, and by all sane people. Guns had nothing to do with it. Half of the fatalities were inflicted by knife, and several of the injuries were inflicted by his vehicle. Roger took his own life once he met resistance from police, so if the people of California had not been disarmed by their government, we can safely assume this rampage would have been cut short by a single act of self defense. Making this about gender is even more ridiculous. Four of the six people killed were men. Nobody would tolerate it if white people went around demonizing black people whenever an act of black on white crime occurred, and pinning this on an entire gender is even more despicable than that. Men are your benefactors, your protectors, and your providers, we are quite literally dying to please you. So the next time you trend a hashtag about us, maybe you say “thank you” instead.

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Christopher Cantwell is a former political prisoner, and current host of the Radical Agenda. The most entertaining podcast of the Alt Right.

  • Karl Schipul

    *claps*

  • Right

    This tubby, bald misogynist sounds like an Elliot Rodger in training.

    • Chris

      In the dictionary by the word “moron,” there wouldn’t be a picture of you. There would, however be the definition of moron, which fits you to a fucking t.

      • Right

        LOL That’s debatable. But what is certain is that it’s just
        a matter of time before Cantwell goes “Elliot Rodger” all over the faces of
        some pretty blonde feminists simply because “they had it coming” in his
        delusional and generally frustrated mind.

        • Karl Schipul

          Oh look, the youtube troll is here.

        • Chris

          And what the fuck do you base this assertion on, outside of your own staggering idiocy?

          • Right

            Didn’t I read somewhere that you’re retired military? Why don’t you ask Cantwell what his opinion of retired members of the military are? I believe he calls the military “welfare for sociopaths”, or some such.

          • Chris

            Chris has known I was military for a while. I understand precisely why he thinks that way, would expect him to say as much, and fucking agree with him. Are you surprised? Now, are you going to support your asinine assertions or not?

          • Right

            I don’t agree with Cantwell often, but in your case I will make an exception. He’s right. You are a welfare recipient.

          • Chris

            So, you aren’t going to substantiate your claims. You should retract them, but you won’t. You haven’t the honor or decency to do such a thing.

          • Right

            And you should be giving your retirement checks back to the taxpayer. It’s the only honorable, decent thing.

            What claims do you feel need substantiation exactly?

          • Chris

            How about this one: “But what is certain is that it’s just a matter of time before Cantwell goes “Elliot Rodger” all over the faces ofsome pretty blonde feminists simply because “they had it coming” in his
            delusional and generally frustrated mind.”

            If you cannot substantiate such a claim factually, you should retract the comment and apologize.

          • Right

            That wasn’t a “claim”. It was merely a subjective observation. The guy seems unstable to me, with an irrational detest for women.

          • Chris

            Even those are claims.

            You don’t understand simple terms, so I can’t expect you to engage in a legitimate discussion or debate.

          • Right

            You need to help yourself to a dictionary, bud.

          • Chris

            Wrong. An observation would be that perhaps Cantwell has a problem with feminists. A claim is that “it’s just a matter of time before Cantwell goes “Elliot Rodger” all over the faces ofsome (sic) pretty blonde feminists simply because they “had it coming.” If you don’t see the difference, then I’m not sure what to tell you. Either way, continuing the conversation is pointless.

          • Right

            I don’t know if this is a claim or an observation in your delusional mind, but you are an idiot.

            Kudos, however, for taking the spotlight off yourself with this inane pedantic minutia for being a taxpayer funded welfare recipient that advocates chaos.

          • Nathan Cline

            You’re dumber than a brick. Do the world a favor and swallow a shotgun.

          • Nathan Cline

            It was merely a statement of your stupidity. Go back to Huffington Post and get back to sucking off your fellow libtards.

          • Right

            Well that sure got you to STFU.

          • Nathan Cline

            Look in the mirror: you’re a stupid asshole. You are what’s wrong with this country.

          • Nathan Cline

            As a US Air Force veteran I have no problem with Mr. Cantwell’s beliefs on this subject, because he’s correct.

            Divide and conquer fail.

          • Right

            I highly doubt you were ever in the Chair Force. If by chance you were, I’d wager that you washed out in boot camp.

          • Nathan Cline

            What makes you think that anyone with any intelligence cares about your ignorant opinion? This is the mistake you keep making: running your cock sucker, as if you are contributing anything of value. Free clue: you’re dumber than a fucking brick.

          • Right

            Your accolades are duly noted. Based on the 12 comment responses you’ve made today to my previous posts you have been nominated for president of my fan club.

          • Nathan Cline

            I make hundreds of comments every day to dozens of people, so don’t let your head get too big, asshat. You are a nobody, whose only purpose in life is to loudly and proudly demonstrate to everyone what a dumb asshole you are.

          • Right

            Pot to the kettel: You’re black!

        • Nathan Cline

          You are dumber than a brick.

    • dirtybluefl

      Wash your mouth out with buckshot, bitch.

    • Kitties nRainbows

      What do you look like? You must be quite a specimen if you carry on making fun of other people this way. And at least 12 years old too? Maybe I’m giving you too much credit.

      You really attract the best sorts of dorky trolls Mr. Cantwell, lol. Keep up the good work. =)

      • Right

        @christophercantwell:disqus Ya see fat boy? Hot chicks dig us statists, not you effeminate, balding, cheetos-eating, jobless anarchists that still live with their mothers.

        • Nathan Cline

          That sounds like projection to me. Are you an effeminate, balding, cheetos-eating, jobless asshole who lives in his mom’s basement?

    • Jim Magdelania

      remember folks, straight white males are always the best source of information about anything remotely controversial with regards to any discussion of equality in any form. ALWAYS

      • Nathan Cline

        I agree.

    • Nathan Cline

      And you sound like Elliot’s father. Look in the mirror: it’s asshats like you who create people like Rodger, with your hatred.

  • Dee Feckitall Gillin

    What hogwash, unless you are a woman you have absolutely no idea how we perceive our environment or how we walk through life in the knowledge we have to be constantly vigilant. To quote a dear friend, “If you feel the need to notallmen respond to a #yesallwomen post… YOU are part of the problem. Sit down, shut up and listen to what women are telling you about what we regularly experience as females.” As a white woman, I can understand cognitively about racial discrimination against someone who’s black, but until I’m black, I don’t really know.

    • Right

      STFU and take your top off

      • Christopher Cantwell

        Holy crap, @disqus_3z69zSvvhR:disqus actually made a decent comment.

    • Christopher Cantwell

      Your perception is not the issue, there are facts involved here. Your irrationality is a problem that needs addressing.

    • illuminarch

      Surely your line of bullshit cuts both ways. If you feel need to respond to a man’s complaints about mistreatment and discrimination by insinuating that he is a budding rapist and murderer, YOU are part of the problem.

    • Funny…your little tantrum here reminds me of folk who use black crime rates to stigmatise and silence all blackfolk. Applying your logic to racial issues, I’d be “part of the problem” if I defended myself against misplaced accusations of criminality.

      Retarded.

    • Andrew B

      Telling someone “Shut up” is not a great way to encourage them to listen to what you have to say.

    • Chris

      “Sit down, shut up and listen to what women are telling you about what we regularly experience as females.”

      Aaaaand this is where my self-respect kicks in and tells you to check yourself. You don’t tell me what to do. Such a demand is a peek into the truth behind feminist claims for championing “equality.” Bullshit. You and other cunts like you do not want equality. You want superiority, before the law, in the workplace, in society… and though Mr. Cantwell did a fine job explaining the real disparity of victims of violence (including rape) between men and women, and despite the staggering favoritism of the vagina in the family court room, and every other form of protectionism built into the court system for women, (the guy didn’t call me after we fucked… RAPE… That guy looked at me funny in the office… SEXUAL HARASSMENT and so on, and so forth, and so on ad nauseum and ad infinitum), you have the gall to attempt to tell us to sit down, shut up and listen?

      You want to know where all the “good men” have gone? Well one of them is typing this response, but I learned how to spot a control freak sociopath a while ago, and “good men” who can do that wouldn’t fuck you with their worst enemy’s dick and his best friend pushing.

      Why don’t you go fuck yourself… with a cactus.

      • Christopher Cantwell

        Well fucking said, sir!

      • LJ

        Yes, women are so ridiculously petty that they would prosecute a guy for rape just because he didn’t call her back. Never mind the severe time and energy commitment that it takes to go to trial. Never mind the name calling and harassment that public rape victims face. Never mind having every bit of your personal life scrutinized. All of that is totally worth it because some random guy will finally get his for not wanting to see a girl again?! I can’t fathom that any logical being would think this is a frequent enough occurrence to warrant mentioning.

        I think it very much speaks to the heart of the issue that the biggest insult you could muster was to tell this chick that she was sexually undesirable in your opinion. I have the privilege of knowing many good men, and they wouldn’t have written the response you gave. “Nice guys,” “good men,” and “supreme gentlemen” might, though.

        • Chris

          Hi LJ,

          Just within the last month or so, a story surfaced about a man who went to prison for rape only to have the woman admit that she lied about the allegation. He did not rape her. I made no mention of it being a common occurrence, but this kind of bullshit does happen. And if you’re going to charge someone with a crime as vile as rape, shouldn’t there be intense scrutiny of the accuser? Or should we just pat her little head and tell her, “There, there… we’ll protect you,” over a sincere pursuit of justice?

          Rape is an abhorrent crime. I do not support rape any more than I support falsely accusing people of a crime.

          And what should have come through as my most terse of insults was that the original poster was a sociopathic control freak. As men wise up to this bullshit, you will find women who want men to “sit down, shut up and listen” to be forever alone… as they should be until they pull their heads out of their asses.

        • Nathan Cline

          “Yes, women are so ridiculously petty that they would prosecute a guy for rape just because he didn’t call her back. Never mind the severe time
          and energy commitment that it takes to go to trial. Never mind the name calling and harassment that public rape victims face. Never mind having every bit of your personal life scrutinized. All of that is
          totally worth it because some random guy will finally get his for not wanting to see a girl again?!”

          Have you ever heard of Julian Assange, dumb ass?

          Accused of rape because he didn’t wear a condom.

          Pull your head out of your asshole.

          THIS STUFF HAPPENS, IDIOT!

          • LJ

            Allegedly, the woman claimed to have consented to sex only with a condom and made it known that she did not consent to sex without a condom. Depending on the country/state, this could be classified as sexual assault and possibly other crimes especially if he has an STD. Laws aside, it’s not ok to be dishonest with your sexual partners about protection.

          • Nathan Cline

            “Allegedly, the woman claimed to have consented to sex only with a condom
            and made it known that she did not consent to sex without a condom.”

            And only a dumb ass believes such a thing.

            The rape accusations were nothing more than a poorly disguised attempt to discredt Julian Assange.

            She had no problem with the sex until weeks afterward, when the right amount of money greased her palm.

      • Ferris Bueler

        “You and other cunts like you do not want equality.”, “Why don’t you go fuck yourself …with a cactus”, and “who can do that wouldn’t fuck you with their enemy’s worst dick and his best friend pushing”. Really? Is this how a ‘good man’ (which is how you labeled yourself) speaks? I think not. A good man wouldn’t speak to a woman, or any human, with such nasty, over-the-top, ad-hominem attacks. This is more how someone like Elliot Rodger would speak.

        • Chris

          Bullshit. A “real man” has the courage and audacity to call shit what it is, instead of being overly concerned about the political correctness of the expression of his sentiments. Now if you want to be a pussy, kiss a woman’s ass, make believe as though they never do any wrong, or believe that feminism is about equality, then have at it. I just can’t understand how or why so many men would stand in support of such a massive effort to (essentially) castrate them. I mean, where is your criticism of a woman telling men in general to “sit down, shut up and listen?”Do you enjoy being spoken to that way? I don’t. And so I respond with the same tone, vigor and vitriol as I am treated with. If that made you angry, then I suggest you wash the sand out of your vagina, or up your dosage of midol.

          • Ferris Bueler

            You can ‘call shit what it is’ without being a douchebag. Sorry dude. Good men are not so quick to be complete assholes. You could have easily pointed out her rudeness in a polite and more civil way. People will take criticism when it is constructive. Instead you acted like a crazed animal. I don’t know if you have children, and daughters in particular, but I would like to think you would be horrified if a boy or man or anyone, spoke to her/them like that. Your response was completely out of line. But since you responded to me with the same vitriol and vulgarity (essentially calling me a pussy and telling me to ‘take the sand out of my vagina’) I still think you are not the ‘good man’ you assume yourself to be.

          • Nathan Cline

            “You could have easily pointed out her rudeness in a polite and more civil way.”

            And you could have shut the fuck up and minded your own business. Instead we get to read a long diatribe of you pretending to be Chris’s mother. Free clue: Chris already has a mother. He doesn’t need your advice, dweeb. Now fuck off.

          • Ferris Bueler

            Mind my own business? In case you didn’t notice, this is a public forum. Clearly Chris’s parents didn’t teach him manners, or your parents didn’t teach you very well either. What a shame. They must be so proud of your ability to be ‘tough’ on the internet. Lol

          • Nathan Cline

            Again: Nobody needs you to be their mom. Go fuck a sword.

          • Ferris Bueler

            And nobody needs your juvenile ad-hominem comments, which are usually the last resort of those who are unable to respond using logic and intelligence.

          • Ferris Bueler

            “Shut the fuck up.” “Now fuck off”. “Go fuck a sword” . Here’s a hint for future debates: those are the words/sentences of someone who is unable to use logic or intelligence in a discussion. Good luck!

          • Chris

            You’re free to think or feel however you wish about my remarks. You should consider, however, that the individual telling us to “sit down, shut up and listen” indicated with her first post that she wasn’t interested in, nor did she believe she needed to listen to any criticism whatsoever. So I could have wasted my time crafting prose intended to criticize her with the vigor and fury of a down feather floating on a spring breeze, or I could use abrupt language intended to catch attention. Since the result is going to be the same either way (i.e. her not reading, not caring, not thinking), why should I create a facade of gentility? There is nothing gentle about her message, or the message of women who want to paint every man with such a broad brush, and convict us for all the evils of humanity. Sorry, but I’m not sure how in the blue fuck such a charge could ever be considered ‘more gentle’ or more ‘civil’ than anything I chose to scribe here as a response to her, or to you.

            “Well, you have a penis, therefore you are either a rapist, or you support rape.” Hmm… Really? Well no I’m not, and no I don’t, and fuck you.

            If that pisses you off, then I suggest you learn to deal with it. I would, however that you would open your eyes and look at the broader picture behind this mentality. Do you have sons? I have 3. And though I’m sure this will turn your stomach, I have 2 daughters as well. (Would you believe it? They love me with reckless abandon, and remain as certain of my love for and devotion to them as they are that the sun will rise tomorrow). And I’m concerned enough about all of their futures to call bullshit bullshit when I see it.

    • So men have to shut up and listen to you, but you don’t have to shut up and listen to men?

      No member of a scapegoated group feels safe no matter how innocent they are; maybe you could think about that. Give some empathy if you want to receive it.

    • Andy Kokuu McLellan

      Thank you for coming here and commenting, Dee, when it must have been obvious what treatment you would get. As I man I am saddened by what I am hearing via #yesallwomen and even sadder to see so many men still downplaying the massive role of misogyny in western culture that leads to such feelings of entitlement and objectification.
      Decrying #yesllawomen as complete nonsense is not helpful and just hiding heads in the sand. Sadly, it doesn’t surprise me.

      • Nathan Cline

        What is “misogyny”, anyway?

    • Harold Rehling

      You’re right about one thing. I have no idea what it’s like to have nervous anxiety disorder to the point of being paranoid.

      Shame on those damn feminists for psychologically abusing you this badly.

    • Ben Keller

      Hey, lookie here, another fallacious and pathetic individual with low-self esteem. She must hate her father.

    • Nathan Cline

      “To quote a dear friend, “If you feel the need to notallmen respond to a #yesallwomen post… YOU are part of the problem.”

      Look in the mirror: you ARE the problem, cunt.

  • Got2bFree

    ok, thank you!

  • illuminarch

    #NotAllWomen murder children…but most child murderers are women.
    #NotAllBlacks are violent criminals…but blacks commit violent crime at a rate vastly disproportionate to their percentage of the population.

    Is it OK to say stuff like this now?

    • Jeremy Woods

      Of course it is. If you want to be branded a misogynist or racist.

      • Harold Rehling

        Do those words even mean anything anymore?

        • Jeremy Woods

          Yes. They are buzzwords for “white male”.

          • Harold Rehling

            So, because I’m an unashamed (NOT the same as “proud”) white male, I should embrace the racist and misogynist brands?

            I’m OK with that, even if the brands are definitively flawed.

          • Jeremy Woods

            Resistance is futile, you will be emasculated.

    • Laura Terrell

      Blacks and whites commit crime at the same rate (particularly with drugs) but blacks are much more likely to go to prison for it and usually get harsher charges than whites. Read “the new him crow”. It’s disturbing. Blacks do commit more violence but it’s likely due to higher rates of poverty than whites and it is well established in research that poverty increases violence. And women have far more involvement with children, especially alone, than men do. When considering the law of averages, statistically men’s violence against children surpasses women’s. And didn’t this guy just make the argument that men are stereotyped about violence and now you’re placing those same stereotypes on blacks?

      • illuminarch

        No, none of that is true. The black crime rate is several times the white rate, even when you include only crimes against property and crimes of violence. They also have a higher crime rate when socio-economic factors are controlled (for instance, poor whites in Appalachia commit nowhere near the amount of crime as similarly poor blacks). Blacks do go to jail more often and for longer, but accepting this fact does not magically eliminate the disparity in criminality. These figures can be discovered by looking at official crime statistics and victimization surveys.

        I invite you to prove your claims regarding “the law of averages” and the rate of male on child crime. I am confident that you’re just talking out your ass.

        I’m sorry that you’re too dense to comprehend the meaning of my original post. Let me explain succinctly: I am turning the tables on those #hashtag warriors and their crusade against all the evils of white men.

        • Laura Terrell

          I would back it up but I feel I would be wasting my time on someone who appears to be perfectly content looking down at others from his high horse of such moral superiority over other races and genders.

          • illuminarch

            You are a good example of what sane, rational, honest people are up against. You happily spew bullshit, holding no regard for the truth, but then impute evil motives and attitudes to people merely for broaching facts that you don’t like. There is literally no reason to try to communicate with you.

          • Harold Rehling

            The man is correct.

            Where YOU are getting confused is that all other things being equal, a black person is more likely to be convicted and receive harsher sentences than a white person. that is not the same as committing crimes at roughly the same rate.

            Additionally, all other things being equal, a man is far more likely to get convicted and receive a harsher sentence than a woman.

            And, in the judicial system, misandry far outweighs racism in that all other things being equal a white man is far more likely to be convicted and receive harsher punishment than a black woman,

            Facts,

          • Nathan Cline

            “Where YOU are getting confused is that all other things being equal, a black person is more likely to be convicted and receive harsher sentences than a white person. that is not the same as committing
            crimes at roughly the same rate.”

            75% of shootings in America are black on black.

            Fact.

          • Harold Rehling

            Way to be irrelevant, Nathan. Reading comprehension, much?

          • Samuel McNamara

            That’s actually accounted for by higher negro recidivism rates. Recidivists receive harsher sentences.

          • Harold Rehling

            When I said “all other things being equal” I did NOT say “all other things EXCEPT PRIOR CRIMINAL HISTORY” being equal.

      • Billy Von Boening

        No daddies

  • Andrew B

    Blaming men for the world’s ills is just as ridiculous of an argument as this image I am posting with a quote from the murderer blaming all women. I’ve seen this same argument used with “women” replaced with “men”. Word for word. Take 5 minutes on Tumblr and you will come across it.
    I am against the initiation of force by men and women. It is morally wrong and unacceptable in a peaceful, voluntary society.
    This was a person filled with hate directed at a gender, sound familiar? Check your privilege, radical feminists. You all sound a lot like the murderer with your rhetoric.

    • Guest

      Here.

    • HomebirthMomma

      Sounds like something Bill Gates would say. Pinky must control the vaginas and the world!
      I wonder what his mother did to him? And what psychotropic drugs he was on?

  • Jeremy Woods

    Feminists pretty much only care about their wallets and reproductive freedom, to plagiarize George Carlin a bit. If they can demonize men in the process, they consider it a hat trick. Nothing new, but just as sad.

  • Would be nice if people actually blame the fucker who actually committed the crime but that would require thinking which statists dont do

  • Andrew Gaskins

    Listen, I’ve been arguing with members of both sides of this argument for the past few days now, and lets be frank. It’s the radicals on either side that sew dissonance and social stratification in situations just like this one. I think before equality can be achieved, both sides need to be able to admit that they collectively have no idea what it’s like to be the opposite gender, sit down and educate each other in constructive discourse, and then agree to make proper movements for both sides to abolish violence against all people everywhere.

    • Kitties nRainbows

      That would make sense if there were two distinct groups that were in a state of war. Is that really the case?

      Does it really make any sense to pretend that everyone can be sorted into two lumpen masses?

    • Gus Baker

      There is no such thing as equal, especially not in the context it’s generally used.

  • Jackson Bonner

    At least itself white people they’re hating for once…

  • LJ

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic. I agree that making
    sexist comments against men only serves to create a greater divide.

    While I knew that sexual assault in prisons was a problem, I am not sure that I grasped the magnitude until reading the article you linked. It is interesting to see the comparison. Though some might argue that it is of less importance because the prisoners were convicted of a crime, I believe that rape is horrific no matter who the victim is. I would guess, though, that the victims in prison probably aren’t questioned as much on what they wore or how they acted that caused them to get raped.

    I don’t feel that the #yesallwomen discussion is complete nonsense. There are some definite comments that are offensive, but for the most part, I read through comments that made me feel less alone. I know that when I was sexually assaulted for the first time, I felt extremely isolated, especially after I was punished by the school administrators when I reported it, because I “allowed” myself to be in a situation where it could happen. Because of my experiences, I often do not feel safe to visit public parks by myself or go out on the town without my husband. While I do not view every man as a villain, I certainly don’t feel free to go where I want or wear what I want at all times. Seeing that so many others also feel this way is both comforting and horrifying to me.

    I don’t think the intent for many is to post hateful things about another gender. I think that many just want to share a glimpse of how events such as these influence how they live their daily lives.

    • illuminarch

      “I would guess, though, that the victims in prison probably aren’t questioned as much on what they wore or how they acted that caused them to get raped.”

      True. They only have to deal with people who “argue that it is of less importance because the prisoners were convicted of a crime.”

      I empathize with your suffering. No one deserves to be victimized by crime, especially by rape, which is just about the most horrible thing that can happen to a person. But sentiments like yours are not exclusively the domain of women, or even people who have been victimized by crime. And there is no one anywhere who feels they can go wherever they want at all times.

      • LJ

        “But sentiments like yours are not exclusively the domain of women”

        Very true. Even outside of prison, plenty of men are victims of rape and sexual assault. And even in the “Land of the Free,” few people feel truly free.

        I think one of the more interesting anecdotes I read in the #yesallwomen grouping was a link to a story where men and women were asked to separately list all the actions that they took to avoid being sexually assaulted. In the anecdote, the men did not have a list while the women came up with many items that they did regularly. Until I read that, I didn’t really think about how many things I do consciously and subconsciously to avoid unwanted attention.

        Ok.. I was going to write more stuff and it was going to be insightful and poignant, but I promised my husband I would watch Star Wars with him and I’m on my third Belgian Tripel, so…..ttfn

    • Nathan Cline

      “While I do not view every man as a villain, I certainly don’t feel free
      to go where I want or wear what I want at all times. Seeing that so
      many others also feel this way is both comforting and horrifying to me.”

      Do you think the default state of humanity is for a woman to be able to walk freely around in a bikini and never once have the slightest risk or danger or rape? Get a clue. You have no right to expect to always be perfectly safe.

      • Jeremy Woods

        If you believe in a non-aggression principle at all, yes.

        We should all have a legitimate right to feel safe, and have the right of retaliatory force if someone puts us in danger.

        I’m not a fan of the way that many feminists seek to re-invent the idea of what constitutes rape, but simply walking around in a bathing suit shouldn’t be construed as an invitation for rape or other violence. That’s a very barbaric idea.

        • Nathan Cline

          “If you believe in a non-aggression principle at all, yes.”

          Sorry, no. It’s naive and foolish to believe everyone agrees on your “non aggression principle.” This is a dangerous world….PERIOD.

  • kiluma

    list of mass shooters and the stark link to psychotropic drugs.

    • Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.

    • Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

    • Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

    • Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

    • Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

    • Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

    • Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

    • Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

    • A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

    • Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

    • A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

    • Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

    • TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

    • Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

    • James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

    • Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

    • Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

    • Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

    • Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

    • Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

    • Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

    • Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

    • Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

    • Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

    • Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

    • Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)

    • Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)

    • Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.

    • Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

    • Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

    • Woody __, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

    • A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

    • Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”

    • Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

    • Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

    • Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.

    • Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

    • Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.

    Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….

    • What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az?

    • What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado?

    • What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or?

    • What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct?

    • Eric Drewes

      They were obviously already disturbed hence why they were on medication. Millions are on these drugs without going on murder sprees

      • kiluma

        Way to ignore a blatant commonality. It’s smacking you in the face, and you still choose to make excuses.
        These are mind-altering drugs, meaning they change ones perspective.

        • Eric Drewes

          correlation doesn’t equate to causation. i haven’t seen anything to justify blaming murder sprees on depression drugs, and as a natural skeptic i like to see evidence before I jump to conclusions. Apparently that is where we differ, which is fair enough for me 🙂

          • Kitties nRainbows

            You aren’t a skeptic, you are a believer.

          • Eric Drewes

            excuse me, you’re the one that said “case closed” (you deleted it but i still have the email). I am saying, the case is NOT closed, and we should wait until we have information before jumping to conclusions and acting like we understand. I’m guessing neither you nor Kiluma have any real education when it comes to psychology, pharmaceuticals, or any of the issues involved here.
            Being skeptical means questioning everything. I think it is premature and irresponsible to assume that these medications are a major cause of the killings, and i definitely don’t think i should take a couple of people on a self-described atheist asshole’s page as gospel.

            Evidence will change my mind, that’s what makes me a skeptic. Refusing to admit there might not be much if any correlation between the medicines and murders makes YOU the believer.

          • Kitties nRainbows

            No, the drug companies have put that exact warning on these drugs, therefore the case is closed on the fact that they have a link to violent behavior. There is no counterargument.

            You are a religious believer in their efficacy, because there is no science behind the theory that they work as supposedly intended. You assume that they work because you bow to authority and abandon reason, therefore you are a true believer in the psychotropic religion.

            Provide some evidence they work, provide a mechanism for how the brain works and may be altered safely. They can’t do it and neither can you, because their statements about helping depression are a lie and the drugs are poison.

            By the way that essay you wrote spewed out amazingly fast from your keyboard. Are you paid to troll for the pharmaceutical industry, or do you do it free as a public service in your spare time?

          • Eric Drewes

            see? look at all the asinine assumptions you’ve posted.

            Please show me where i have shown any evidence even remotely that I am a “religious believer in their efficacy”? Please show me where i have given any evidence at all that I bow to authority and abandon reason?

            I thought we were having a rational discussion but obviously you’re just tilting at windmills and getting on your soapbox and lecturing the straw men.

          • Kitties nRainbows

            They aren’t assumptions, they are facts. But I wouldn’t expect a religious-minded person such as yourself to be able to tell the difference.

            Your whole screed is the evidence that you believe authority over facts, but you can’t see it. No amount of explaining is going to cure you of this problem. You are going to have to be smacked by life and shaken out of your way of thinking in order to see the truth. That’s why people become anarchists.

            Take the red pill.

          • Eric Drewes

            what authority do i believe? seriously, show me a SINGLE example of where I said i believed ANYTHING in any of my posts. All i’ve said is, woah, let’s slow down on saying that depression meds are the cause. The fact you immediately started calling me a religious believer that bows to authority because i said “correlation doesn’t equate to causation. i haven’t seen anything to justify blaming murder sprees on depression drugs” reveals the mindset you have to immediately judge, label and dismiss people.

            if you took a red pill, all it did was fill you with pretentiousness and misplaced confidence in your own misguided ideas.

          • kiluma

            This was never never meant to become a battle of name-calling/blame-game.

            It was merely to add another perspective to the discussion. The FACT that these people were on mind-altering psycho-tropic drugs is very relevant to the discussion.

          • Nathan Cline

            “what authority do i believe?”

            Whichever one has convinced you that Prozac/Zoloft/etc must be just fine because you personally haven’t seen 1,823 double blind peer reviewed studies proving otherwise.

          • Eric Drewes

            NATHAN- you said (before heavy edits):

            “we should wait until we have information before jumping to conclusions and acting like we understand.”

            And what more “information” are you expecting to see, asshat?

            If nothing else, this is proof that these drugs are USELESS.
            ===

            my response:

            i never said prozac, etc. was just fine. Never once did i say that. I said that there are millions of people who take depression medications without going on murder sprees so identifying medication meant to treat depression as the CAUSE OF MURDEROUS RAMPAGES is premature and that we should learn more before we point fingers. The fact that you call me an asshat and that you think these drugs are useless when there are hundreds of thousands of americans right now that are taking it to their benefit shows that they are, in fact, NOT USELESS.
            ===

            Kiluma:

            not all of them were on drugs, but i do agree w/ the premise that drugs may have harmful side-effects and that we need more research and more studies done to 1) reduce the risk of harmful side-effects for patients 2) understand just what exactly is going on with the brain so we can more effectively treat it. Your perspective is appreciated if we’re going to have an honest, open, intelligent discussion on the subject. I’d be happy to listen and engage on the topic.

            Unfortunately though, for merely raising my hand and saying “I’m not thoroughly convinced there’s a direct correlation between the drugs and these murders” i have been called an asshat, told i am a religious believer in authority and accused of being a paid propagandist by the pharmaceutical companies. so much for “question everything”? because apparently the “case is closed” and these drugs caused the murders and the millions of americans that take these daily are ticking time bombs just waiting to go off despite the fact that less than .0001% of users ever kill anyone

          • Nathan Cline

            ” I said that there are millions of people who take depression medications without going on murder sprees”

            Yeah, and there’s millions of people who smoke cigarettes and don’t get cancer, too. So your point is what, exactly?

            “so identifying medication meant to treat depression as the CAUSE OF MURDEROUS RAMPAGES is premature and that we should learn more before we point fingers.”

            This may come as a surprise to your ignorant ass, but there are some of us out here who HAVE gathered enough information to make a determination. Maybe it’s YOU who should “learn more” before you start trying to refute someone’s learned opinion.

            “The fact that you call me an asshat and that you think these drugs are useless when there are hundreds of thousands of americans right now that are taking it to their benefit shows that they are, in fact, NOT USELESS.”

            Yes, they ARE USELESS. Ecstasy could cure many people’s depression literally overnight. It happened to me. This is the most powerful anti-depressant available……AND IT’S ILLEGAL. Why do you suppose that is?

            “i do agree w/ the premise that drugs may have harmful side-effects and that we need more research and more studies done”

            You are a science worshipper. You think that a person can ONLY come to truth by going through your precious process of “studies” and “research” ….. at an “accredited” institution by “qualified” personnel, of course.

            Those of us who’ve merely paid attention and studied this and other things for our entire lives? Our opinions and observations are worthless, obviously, because we don’t have the “right” piece of paper and didn’t follow the “right” process.

            ” Your perspective is appreciated if we’re going to have an honest, open, intelligent discussion on the subject.”

            How do YOU expect to have any kind of worthwhile conversation on this subject when you yourself have admitted you don’t have a clue and “need to see more data” before forming any kind of opinion?

            “Unfortunately though, for merely raising my hand and saying “I’m not thoroughly convinced there’s a direct correlation between the drugs and
            these murders” i have been called an asshat, told i am a religious believer in authority and accused of being a paid propagandist by the
            pharmaceutical companies.”

            Right. Because you’re WASTING EVERYONE’S FUCKING TIME by continually repeating your non-opinion over and over again, when you don’t actually have anything to add to the discussion.

          • Eric Drewes

            honestly dude, im just going to point out one flaw and hopefully you can extrapolate why i am not bothering with you further. I know it will be futile, but I am an optimist,

            you say: “Yeah, and there’s millions of people who smoke cigarettes and don’t get cancer, too. So your point is what, exactly?”

            lung cancer and other diseases related to smoking kill millions of people a year. this has been thoroughly proven and is not disputed by anyone. trying to compare this to depression meds causing murder is one of the most asinine false dichotomies i have ever read.

            you call names, project malicious assumptions and judge people based on absurd anecdotal evidence (like insisting ecstasy is a better and more effective cure for depression) and irrational confidence in your own ability to discern reality from bullshit.

            It is an unfortunate that the people least qualified are also the people who are most confident in their beliefs. the more you learn, the less you’re sure.

            and you seem very very sure of yourself 🙂

          • Eric Drewes

            extacy is a mind-altering psychotropic drug with many of the same attributes and risks of the drugs you’re railing against. your arguments are absurd, your point of view is ignorant, and you are, in general, someone i am glad doesn’t have any power over me.

            I refuse to discuss this further, as it is futile and a waste of time – however, if you are not yet satisfied, any time you want to get into a boxing ring with me we can settle this via trial by combat.

          • Nathan Cline

            “extacy is a mind-altering psychotropic drug with many of the same attributes and risks of the drugs you’re railing against.”

            No it isn’t.

            “I refuse to discuss this further, as it is futile and a waste of time -”

            Good. Go fuck yourself.

            “however, if you are not yet satisfied, any time you want to get into a boxing ring with me we can settle this via trial by combat.”

            LOL

          • Eric Drewes

            come on Nathan, you look like a tough guy. we can arm ourselves with heavy sticks and duel on rotating platforms like flash gordon. the Gods favor the truth, and thus will favor the better man 😀

          • Eric Drewes

            After-effects[edit]
            Effects reported by some users once the acute effects of MDMA have worn off include:
            Psychological
            Anxiety and paranoia
            Depression[29][30][31][32]
            Irritability[30]
            Fatigue[31][32]
            Impaired attention, focus, and concentration, as well as drive and motivation (due to depleted serotonin levels)[29]
            Residual feelings of empathy, emotional sensitivity, and a sense of closeness to others (afterglow)
            Physiological
            Dizziness, lightheadedness, or vertigo[32]
            Loss of appetite[29]
            Gastrointestinal disturbances, such as diarrhea or constipation
            Insomnia[29]
            Aches and pains, usually from excessive physical activity (e.g., dancing)[29][31]
            Exhaustion[30][32]
            Jaw soreness, from bruxism[32][33][34]

          • Nathan Cline

            And of course, like the useful idiot you are, you quoted some shit from Wikipedia as if that somehow makes you an expert.

            Try it yourself, and form an opinion from direct, personal experience? Or actually speaking to someone who’s tried it, and ask their opinion? Why heavens no. You can’t be bothered with that. You’re too busy being a USEFUL IDIOT, and WORSHIPPER of the scientific “authorities” who dictate your “opinion” to you.

          • Eric Drewes

            i’ve done extacy before. it heavily altered my mental state because it is a psychotropic drug that directly affects serotonin levels – which, by the way, is how many medications made to help depression operate. The fact you deny that extacy is a mind-altering drug is totally bizarre.

          • Nathan Cline

            I didn’t say ecstasy isn’t a mind-altering drug, you fucking idiot. You said it’s like Zoloft etc. No, it’s not. It’s nothing like them.

          • Eric Drewes

            here’s a reminder, mr cline

            “extacy is a mind-altering psychotropic drug with many of the same attributes and risks of the drugs you’re railing against.”

            to which you replied: no it isn’t

            please tell me how i am wrong and what in that statement makes me an “idiot”?

          • Eric Drewes

            MDMA affect serotonin in the brain, which is literally exactly what Zoloft does as well. How is it “nothing like them”?

          • Nathan Cline

            Because its effects are a lot more complicated than “effects serotonin levels”, you clueless dipshit. Why don’t you read a book on this subject some time instead of continuing to display your profound ignorance?

          • Eric Drewes

            🙂 oh so this is complicated? maybe we don’t know everything? and we should do research before stating anything conclusively? it appears you agree with me after all. good work, it took us awhile to get there but we made it. High Five bro! 🙂

          • Eric Drewes

            i’m so glad we could drop the childish rhetoric and insults and come to an agreement. You’re a good guy nathan. we need more like you

          • Nathan Cline

            *facepalm*

            God damn you are fucking stupid.

          • Eric Drewes

            wait where is this coming from? i thought we agreed that neither of us have all the facts and neither of us are omnipotent so we should probably not definitely state things as facts?

            oh you’re being facetious, lol! you’re a good guy man, i like you. you had me going there for a minute haha

          • Nathan Cline

            Because it doesn’t have “many of the same attributes and risks of the drugs I was railing against”, you fucking clueless idiot. Why do you keep arguing on a subject that you clearly know NOTHING about?

            A: Because you are STUPID.

          • Nathan Cline

            “lung cancer and other diseases related to smoking kill millions of people a year. this has been thoroughly proven and is not disputed by
            anyone.”

            For fuck’s sake man, pull your head out of your asshole.

            Before this was “thoroughly proven and not disputed by anyone”, it was NOT proven and WAS disputed by many people. And the people who said it was true were assailed by dumb asses like you who continually cried about the need to “gather more information” and “conduct more studies” before “jumping to conclusions.”

            “you call names, project malicious assumptions and judge people based on absurd anecdotal evidence (like insisting ecstasy is a better and more effective cure for depression) and irrational confidence in your own ability to discern reality from bullshit.”

            Yet again you display your stupidity for the world to see. Just because YOU PERSONALLY don’t know something, then nobody else can possibly know it, right?

            Ecstasy is the most powerful antidepressant on the planet. It can alter a person’s life forever for the better in ONE dose. If you are too ignorant to know this, it’s a sure sign you need to do some more research, instead of continuing to run your cock sucker in the idiotic belief that you’re adding something to the conversation. So far you’ve said absolutely nothing of substance.

            “It is an unfortunate that the people least qualified are also the people who are most confident in their beliefs. the more you learn, the less you’re sure.”

            Says the man who keeps arguing, even though it has been repeatedly pointed out that you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

          • kiluma

            These pills are poisonous to the human body(just look at the list of side effects). Just because to benefit CAN outweigh the consequence doesn’t mean they are not poison.

            All the drugs being listed on my original post have violence against others/self as a potential side-effect.

            Fact is, more and more pre-pubescent and pubescent people are being prescribed drugs that alter the brain on a fundamental level BEFORE THE BRAIN EVEN HAS A CHANCE TO FORM A FOUNDATIONAL RESPONSE TO PUBERTY.

            While the evidence is, indeed, anecdotal, it is NOT inappropriate to draw conclusions or make assumptions.

          • Drawing Blood

            I have been taking antidepressants and antipsychotics for over ten years. The only violence I have committed has been against myself, and that has always been more of a problem when I have been unmedicated. Almost every time I have been seriously suicidal, it has been when I have been unmedicated, or have only just started taking something. So don’t tell me it’s a lie that they help depression. Saying that they DON’T is a lie.

          • Nathan Cline

            You know what would really help your depression? ONE dose of Ecstasy. It would change your life forever for the better, as it did mine. But you can’t do that…because it would be ILLEGAL. So get back to paying for that ongoing prescription, chump.

          • Nathan Cline

            “we should wait until we have information before jumping to conclusions and acting like we understand.”

            And what more “information” are you expecting to see, asshat?

            If nothing else, this is proof that these drugs are USELESS.

          • SamuelAdams1776

            I was on these drugs for ten years myself. On Ritalin I had nose bleeds and had the worst headaches of my life. I was misdiagnosed/misunderstood many times. Ive even hallucinated a few times with speed for kids.

            Some asshole doctor would talk to me 1 hour a week and the fucking quack would sum me up as a person in that short chat. Lots of puking and mal nutrition until I started cheeking them and spitting them out when no one was looking. With draws!!!!

            Later I self diagnosed my psychosis as not liking school and it didn’t take ten years of experimenting to do that and I found myself to be more sane than every god damn legal drug pusher/shrink out there.

            Head doctors are the new witch doctors in many cases and seek to fit every person in a neat little box. They’re the perfect tool of the state and unknowingly or not seek to conform every one as in the Soviet union, where questioning was considered a mental illness.

      • Kitties nRainbows

        It says they may increase suicidal or homicidal thoughts right on the label. Case closed.

  • John

    Well reasoned as always Chris

  • Valerie

    Those problems you list – male rape in prison, domestic violence against men, casualties of war, etc. – stem from social prescriptions about masculinity and femininity that most feminists would disagree with and would like to see disappear. We would also not be talking about domestic violence at all without the intervention of feminists in the 1970s – nor about rape (male and female), different custody practices in the case of divorce, or fathers’ involvement in their children’s lives.

    Feminists are “freaking out” about the assumption that it is our biology that renders women vulnerable to male violence – that men are both the jailers and the prisoners of this innate violence, which means they must both protect and attack women. Feminists are “freaking out” about the fact that MRAs want their cake and eat it too: they want to be acknowledged as victims of their own gender roles without examining said gender roles. Feminists are “freaking out” because even when they are just sharing ordinary, 140-character stories of something that happened to them, they are seen as “freaking out.”

    • Mainlander

      Did you read the post at all?

      • Valerie

        Yes I did. Cantwell argues that the #Yesallwomen is overblown because women actually don’t get all the brunt of the violence that men enact on each other, and they should be grateful enough that they shouldn’t bother him or other men with a Twitter hashtag (granted, this last bit
        is a bit of an extrapolation). My response is that the very violence is discussing has its origin in a culture of masculinity that feminists are interested in dismantling (the short-hand of this is “patriarchy hurts men too), and that feminism actually provides the tool to do so (women have been using those tools for fifty years).

        • Nathan Cline

          “My response is that the very violence he is discussing has its origin in a culture of masculinity that feminists are interested in dismantling
          (the short-hand of this is “patriarchy hurts men too), and that feminism actually provides the tool to do so (women have been using those tools
          for fifty years).”

          And my response is: you’re full of shit.

  • Inconsistencies

    YesAllWomen = YeSwalloMen

  • Ben Keller

    Good piece. For me this whole #YesAllWomen hashtag boils down to the radical feminists once again hijacking the main issue here, which is mental illness, with the misogyny gimmick. I predicted this long before it happened. It would also be interesting to do a piece on how you never find a feminist with high self-esteem. Every single feminist I’ve ever met all have one thing in common: low self-estem. Prove me wrong. It won’t happen.

  • Bloody Christ – what a world – I have no pity for Eliot loser.

    • Nathan Cline

      Look in the mirror: YOU are the problem.

      • You seem to be the guy defending the nut – do you have HIS problem? Afraid of gals much?

  • Frank Morris

    “According to the Prison Policy Initiative, men are more than ten times as likely to go to prison than women in the United States. People will point out that men commit more crimes than women, but not at a ratio of 10:1. According to the FBI, men are roughly three times more likely to be arrested for a crime, but ten times more likely to go to prison for it.”
    That is because it is all about “putting heads in beds,” and most of the beds were built for men. The court/prison system has little to do with justice, punishment, or rehabilitation, and everything to do with making the bucks, and justifying more prison building projects.

  • DeMarquise Elkins

    Reddit SRS is also complete nonsense.

  • Xander

    Wow. This is disgusting.

    YesAllWomen talks about the experience of women. It is not saying that men do not experience violence at the hand of women. It does not say no men fear any women.

    The movement is a frank discussion of a common problem women face. And to claim to invalidate the whole discussion based on the incomplete “logic” you have presented here… well, you’re rather missing the point.

    (And, it is missing the point in a very offensive and invalidating way. You either cannot see or refuse to acknowledge those experiences because of your own pain, your own guilt, or some other mystery factor.)

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