James Alex Fields is Innocent

I was contacted today by Elle Reeve of Vice News, who asked me for commentary on the case of James Alex Fields. Fields stands accused of murdering Heather Heyer, the obese communist rioter whose greatest accomplishment was dying on August 12th, and becoming a martyr for the cause of white genocide.

James Alex Fields is Innocent
James Alex Fields is Innocent

Unfortunately for the lying Jew scum who are trying to frame Mr. Fields for murder, there is video of the incident. He can be clearly seen approaching the intersection normally, and applying his brakes, before his car is struck by one of the rioters with some sort of club. As the mob wolfpacked his vehicle, he hit the gas in an apparent effort to escape. His path was blocked by other vehicles however, and he collided with the vehicle in front of him. Rather than running away like sane people, the communist rioters swarmed the car again, at which point Fields slams the car into reverse and speeds away, taking several more of his assailants out along the way.

In the immediate aftermath, police acknowledged that the collision was not malicious. Taylor Lorenz of The Hill tweeted this out from his interviews with law enforcement. Then, somehow, the narrative changed and Lorenz deleted the tweets. There is shockingly little coverage of this on the web, but it happened.

If Fields was just hell bent on murdering liberals, there were certainly plenty of them in Charlottesville that day. Why didn’t he do so anywhere else? Why did he wait until one of them hit his car with a club? Why did he slow down as he approached the mob? Why did he speed away instead of going in to finish off the vermin? Why did only one person die?

Why do we not know the names of the people who attacked James Fields? Why are they not being prosecuted for causing the chain of events that led to Heyer’s death?

These are the questions a responsible journalist might ask, but of course, Elle Reeve doesn’t seem particularly interested in seeing them answered. Nor does anyone else in the media.

That should trouble you enough. What should trouble you more is that police do not seem to be asking them either. Given that we know from the Heaphy report that Chief Thomas deleted text messages, backdated documents, communicated using a private email server, and tried to steer the Heaphy investigation, everything that police department does should be under incredible scrutiny. That is why I am so happy to hear that the federal government is investigating the events of August 11th and 12th, and why AntiFa is telling their fellow terrorists to resist the grand jury.

The media race hysteria will do fine for the court of public opinion, but once things start getting laid out methodically in court rooms, I am confident cooler heads will prevail. The single most important fact that everyone seems to be ignoring is that the communists set out to use violence against Unite The Right demonstrators to “shut it down,” and they succeeded. They conspired to violate our right to speak and peaceably assemble, and they made no secret of this.

They did the same thing the month prior at the KKK rally, where they had to be arrested and tear gassed. Police were accused of excessive force and racism over that incident, and the charges against the rioters were ultimately dropped. Shockingly enough, police didn’t want to be accused of brutality and bigotry all over again. So they did nothing to stop the rioters in August, and a riot predictably ensued. If the police had been permitted to do their jobs, Unite the Right would have gone down just as unremarkably as the alt-right rally Pikeville, Kentucky. Instead, leftists took over the government of Charlottesville and rendered the police department impotent. Even this is not good enough for Charlottesville communists, who are literally calling for the police department to be abolished. A fun irony indeed, given that they made such enthusiastic use of police services in the wake of the event.

It rings frighteningly reminiscent of how Hitler described Marxists along his rise to power;

I also came to understand that physical intimidation has its significance for the mass as well as for the individual. Here again the Socialists had calculated accurately on the psychological effect.

Intimidation in workshops and in factories, in assembly halls and at mass demonstrations, will always meet with success as long as it does not have to encounter the same kind of terror in a stronger form.

Then of course the Party will raise a horrified outcry, yelling blue murder and appealing to the authority of the State, which they have just repudiated. In doing this their aim generally is to add to the general confusion, so that they may have a better opportunity of reaching their own goal unobserved. Their idea is to find among the higher government officials some bovine creature who, in the stupid hope that he may win the good graces of these awe-inspiring opponents so that they may remember him in case of future eventualities, will help them now to break all those who may oppose this world pest.

The impression which such successful tactics make on the minds of the broad masses, whether they be adherents or opponents, can be estimated only by one who knows the popular mind, not from books but from practical life. For the successes which are thus obtained are taken by the adherents of Social Democracy as a triumphant symbol of the righteousness of their own cause; on the other hand the beaten opponent very often loses faith in the effectiveness of any further resistance.

The more I understood the methods of physical intimidation that were employed, the more sympathy I had for the multitude that had succumbed to it.

You can hear the full audio of my interview with Elle Reeve below.

 

 

Chris

Christopher Cantwell is a former political prisoner, and current host of the Radical Agenda. The most entertaining podcast of the Alt Right.

  • thedaywalkr

    Uncle Adolf knew what was up and his writings read like a handbook of what we need to do to deal with our enemies on our way to increasing our power levels.

    • Lawrence_Bond

      Hello. I’ve read almost every word H!tler wrote up to about 1935 and agree he was very clear about his beliefs. He saw the Jews as a race, one by its very nature evil. Is that your view as well, thedaywalkr?

      • Here’s what we know so far about Lawrence Bond,
        1. When Chris gets out of jail after serving 3 1/2 months for lies that some tranny told, Bond is the first one to show up and try to troll him. Never mind that Chris was being martyred for free speech and his race. Bond needed to save the jews from dead názis.
        2. When Jaydolf’s rescued dog was sick, and he asked for help on his Disqus channel, Bond showed up to talk about Hitler.
        3. When Joe’s wife died, and everyone, including even Toilet Paper, was there to give their condolences, Bond was conspicuously absent. Nothing at all. I guess she didn’t count because she wasn’t a jew.
        Turns out that this Bond character is a worthless piece of shít, but we all knew that already. Hopefully he’ll let us know when his daughter marries that Somali refugee who’s been eying her. Then he can neck himself.

        • Lawrence_Bond

          Slander me as much as you want. But the fact remains you are promoting beliefs that have led to the horrible deaths of millions. We fight to stop that happening again.

          • Slander? Your profile is open. Anyone can look. I can’t link the Mickey’s thread here, but there are hundreds of comments. None from you. The comment at Jaydolf’s is easy enough to find, and your trolling of Chris is on the article before this one. No, jew. No one is slandering you. You’re caught red handed. Now neck yourself. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3704b7b8676d03db0460c88d4fb08ac00f8d4e11b902a2b631c1861656d92b38.png

          • Lawrence_Bond

            The slander is the accusation we are personal callous. Do you realize how much pain your words and the horrible images you post cause people, Jewish and non.

            You promote a belief that caused the screaming death of millions. We decent human beings stand against you.

            (The Jews are not a race, BTW.)

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Oh yes — you want us all dead. Hanging this time round is it?

          • Lawrence_Bond

            You can tell me to kill myself and be as personally nasty and rude as you can, KEK — bit I have nothing against you personally and wish you well as a person. I will, however, continue to counter the misguided and dangerous beliefs you express.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            You’re next.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            You’re absolutely right, KEK — I must die. As a Jew, I am a racial threat to the white races. Let me and my people live, and the Aryans are doomed. Follow Augur — wipe us from the earth’s face.

            [email protected] H!tler

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I see it all now, KEK — and fall to my knees in gratitude before you. The Jewish blood in me drove me to stand against you all this time. I confess it — I was raised to destroy the white races and enslave the Goy. I am not worthy to live. You must work to destroy us all. Unless you do mankind is finished.

          • Hadding Scott

            Okay I guess with “you want us all dead” he’s fessing up to being a Jew after all, which makes his use of Edith Stein seem very cynical.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Even if I were a Jew it wouldn’t be a confession to say so. By “us” there I include the supporters of the Jews.

            Is that all you can say when one of your side speaks like that? You expect us to believe you don’t want to kill people when you tell people to commit suicide?

          • Hadding Scott

            Your Holohoax propaganda is slowly killing us all. So get off your highhorse.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Not on any high horse. Several posters here have openly called for the entire Jewish population to be wiped out. KEK and most of the people round them don’t bat an eyelid. Then he tells me to kill myself. Most people would draw the same coclusions as me.

          • Hadding Scott

            They are just throwing the Jews’ own propaganda back at them. You can’t browbeat people with a murder-accusation decade after decade and reasonably expect them not, at some point, to consider whether the murder might not be justified. They would have to be masochists not to start thinking that way at some point.

            It also becomes a matter of humor. The unreasonableness of forcing an obsession about the Jews’ alleged problems of 75 years ago onto the rest of the population is just too glaring for it not to provoke a reaction of mockery and satire. A. Wyatt Mann’s comicbook Tales of the Holohoax appeared about 25 years ago. Lots of people on Internet now are thumbing their nose at this sacred cow.

            Now I, on the other hand, say that the Jews did not quite drive the Germans to the point of deciding that they must all be killed. It certainly looks better for the Jews if the most educated nation in Europe didn’t resolve to kill them all. But I am the bad guy for saying that?

            You’re a tedious timewaster, and patently insincere. Of course people are telling you to go away, or drop dead. I am sure that I would get a much less tolerant reception than that if I started making Revisionist arguments on a pro-Holohoax forum. Holocaust Revisionists have been subject to very severe physical violence at times.

            So get off your highhorse, stop your moralizing.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            You’ve twisted the whole thing so far in your mind you see everything back to front. A terrible crime becomes funny. People calling for it to be repeated is also a joke. Any one who questions your views is dismissed as moralizing idiots etc.

            I asked you a simple question before, pls answer it — have you read Männel’s book?

          • Hadding Scott

            A FALSE claim of “a terrible crime” is typical material for humor. Nobody should be surprised that the Jews’ Holohoax 70 years later has become the butt of jokes. It’s overdue.

            I translated all of Maennel’s little manual 20 years ago, you stupid ass.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            But you never read it. You simply scanned looking for apparent exceptions. You don’t understand what it says. You don’t understand [email protected]

          • Hadding Scott

            Okay. I never read it. I just translated it. Riiiiiight.

            You’re so stupid!

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Think about what I wrote and understand.

            It is easy to translate a text sentence by sentence without understanding the meaning of the whole. Translators do it all the time. It is what you have done with that book.

            By citing that one passage from it as a definitive statement of NS ideology you show you understand neither the book itself, the references it draws on nor NS ideology as a whole. Or you are deliberately selectively quoting for propaganda means.

            It is impossible to reason with you or explain anything to you. Last reply.

          • Hadding Scott

            Troll, troll, troll. I am not interested in your stupid faggot games.

            He says that he’s going away now. We can hope.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I’m glad you got back actually as I forgot to ask you something. Greenie, a White Nat, says you called a radio show and were pretty spirited — please send a link to that.

            Secondly, could you also send me a picture of yourself if your identity is already public as you are definitely a character and I’m curious to see what you look like (that is not sarcasm).

          • Lawrence_Bond

            It’s not trolling. It’s not a game.

            The rest of the chapter and the one on race; the references in the book itself and thousands of other sources would tell any logical person looking for the truth that it would be grossly in error to take one passage and draw conclusions from it alone. But that is what you did.

            It’s the whole Denier thing. Search and search for any apparent exceptions and grip onto them like a pike, getting aggressive or dodging if the massive body of other evidence is presented.

            You could live for another million years — but as long as you keep thinking like that you will never discover any truth.

          • Hadding Scott

            I am sure that if you had a specific, concrete criticism, you would state it.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Please read what I have written to you and consider it openly. By read I mean consciously say to yourself before you look at the words “This person is expressing an opinion different to mine but I will do my best to understand and appreciate what he is saying”.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I used to translate whole books on dentistry. But never knew a thing about the profession apart from a few tech terms, didn’t need to.

            That is what you have done with that book.

            That’s why it seemed you’d only found that passage via a Google search. You’ve just ignored the mass of material that doesn’t support your beliefs, until you eventually found a passage that seems to.

            Then you present it as representative. But it is not.

            You have, unfortunately, blinded yourself. And that is why people don’t believe you.

            The fundamental problem is you’ve convinced yourself you’ve discovered a hidden truth by revelation. That you’ve been “red pilled”.

            But it’s a deception.

            Please, Hadding, come over to my channel and I will put a lot of time into explaining to you, step by step and purely logically, what that book actually says. And says in the clearest possible language.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            It’s you who keep the exchange going. But you’re wrong about which side is religious. I know the antisemites. Your beliefs are more than a religion to you. You need them. That is why you all get so upset when they’re questioned and will never concede a single point. Some of you even use religious words when speaking of H!tler. Even comparing him to Jesus. You’re in a cult, Hadding. One I know of no one who’s got out from.

          • Christmas with Mike

            Christian Picciolini, former white power leader, has done good work with his nonprofit peace advocacy organization called Life After Hate. They help former neo-Nazzis integrate into society.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I stand corrected. Sounds like a great guy doing great work. Will look him up. Could do with someone like that round here…

          • Copyright101

            Has Mr. Cuckiolini explained anywhere why he’s OK with whites being a minority in the US in a generation and why he’s comfortable with jews running the media, finance etc?

            Thanks in advance for the link(s).

          • Hadding Scott

            You just demonstrated that you know nothing about me. Meanwhile you have a nun as your display-image, and you’re calling ME religious.

            I just accused you of moralizing. I don’t even see you denying it. Instead you changed the subject to religiosity. The funny thing is, you look at the angry audience-members from the Donahue show where David Cole and Bradley Smith appeared in 1994, and they are largely Christians. They obviously regard questioning the Holocaust as very much like a religious heresy: “You don’t believe in GAWD either, do ya?”

          • Hadding Scott

            Lawrence_Bond went back and deleted the comment to which my post above was a response. Apparently he recognized that I had whipped his ass.

          • To be fair, I’m not sure he did it. It looks like a moderator may have gassed a few comments. I saw Bond complaining about it back at his channel, where he was coordinating his attack with his jew buddies.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            You Nuzi returds are the most cynical people on Earth. Take your hypocritical fake outrage and shove it.

          • thedaywalkr

            Uh. No. So there!

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Haha funny. Good job.

          • Christmas with Mike

            Would a white guy who thinks that Jewish people are essentially the same as, and deserve the same rights as gentiles, have any place in your ideal society?

          • Hadding Scott

            There is no such thing as an ideal society.

          • Christmas with Mike

            I’m pretty secular. I still celebrate some holidays, and light the occasional Shabbat candle, but my ceremonies are more an excuse to have family time than to worship.

            After my de-judaization, we’ll switch to jigsaw puzzles.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            ‘Okay I guess with “you want us all dead”‘

            If you go back to my comment you’ll see you’ve totally misread it. As you often do.

          • Hadding Scott

            I didn’t misread anything. You were invoking the Holohoax in regard to yourself, implying that you might be a Jew. What a pretentious piece of shit you are.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Some of you are just troublemakers etc who would drop the whole thing if they had to use use their real names, some of you really mean it and would order all the terrible things you go on about if they could.

          • Hadding Scott

            Yeah I think there’s probably a pink triangle with your name on it.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Tell us this then — What would you do if you became president of America?

          • thedaywalkr

            This time round eh? As if learning from the previous 109 times is out of the question…

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Those were expulsions, not genocide.

          • thedaywalkr

            You completely missed my point. Whether they were expulsions or genocide WHY DID THEY HAPPEN? Are we supposed to let Jews completely tank our countries and civilizations to the point of expulsion? Why is it that Jews cannot learn what they have done wrong 109 different times? When are they going to finally understand the common denominator?

          • Lawrence_Bond

            But to the extreme antisemite the reason is the Jews are of a different race, an evil one. That is why the [email protected] tried to destroy them. They could not have been more clear on the point.

          • john dicarlo

            “Extreme antisemites?” You mean TRUTHSEEKERS, of which YOU ARE NOT!

            “You cannot be English Jews. We are a race, and only as a race can we perpetuate. Our mentality is of Edomitish character, and differs from that of an Englishman. Enough subterfuges! Let us assert openly that we are International Jews.” (From the manifesto of the “World Jewish Federation,” January 1, 1935, through its spokesperson, Gerald Soman).

            “No one pretends that a Japanese or Indian child is English because it was born in England. The same applies to Jews.” (Jewish World, London September 22, 1915)

            “We are not Whites — either symbolically or literally — as anyone knows who goes to Israel.”
            — Professor Leonard Fein at speech at 27th biennial congress of the Jewish Board of Deputies in Johannesburg, SA May 15, 1972.

            “The white race is the cancer of humanity.” Susan Sontag, jewish marxist intellectual

            “The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists.”– Harvard educated jew, Noel Ignatiev

            “we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as ‘the white race’ is destroyed–not ‘deconstructed’ but destroyed.”– Harvard educated jew, Noel Ignatiev

            “We Jews have spoiled the blood of all races. We have tarnished and broken their power. we have made everything foul, rotten, decomposed and decayed.” (The Way To Zion, Munzer)

            “The goal for which we have striven so concertedly for three thousand years is at last within our reach. I can safely promise you that our race will soon take its rightful place in the world, with every Jew a king and every Gentile a slave.” — Rabbi Emmanuel Rabbinovich, speech delivered at a special conference of European rabbis in Budapest, January 12, 1952

            “A Jew remains a Jew even though he changes his religion; a Christian which would adopt the Jewish religion would not become a Jew, because the quality of a Jew is not in the religion but in the race. A Free thinker and Atheist always remains a Jew.” (Jewish World, London December 14, 1922)

            “I am not an American citizen of the Jewish faith. I am a Jew … Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race, and we are a race.” — Stephen S. Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and of the World Jewish Congress, stated at a rally in New York in June 1938

            “Jews are the only exception. They were destined to be unique. The concept of racial purity within the Jewish nation is not a myth. The only facts to determine Jewishness should be purely an hereditary one regardless of Jewish observance. A Jew is some-one from Jewish stock. No one can make a gentile Jewish. We must retain our own exclusivity in order to survive and not be infiltrated by outsiders.” — Jeffrey Kwintner, Jew, writing in the Jewish Chronicle of Dec. 29, 1989.

            “We are not Whites — either symbolically or literally — as anyone knows who goes to Israel.”— Professor Leonard Fein at speech at 27th biennial congress of the Jewish Board of Deputies in Johannesburg, SA May 15, 1972.

          • Jon Steele

            “Extreme antisemite” = someone very knowledgeable about Jews and not afraid to tell others about it. Just one definition of several.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Hi, Jon. That is certainly how many who believe the Jews are malevolent would define “extreme antisemite”. I do not believe however that it can be show that is what the Jews are.

          • avgfd

            fuck off you little weasle

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Mr Cantwell featured my first comment and wrote me a nice comment of welcome. I’ll leave if he asks me to.

          • Hadding Scott

            Tell us the name of one verified victim of a Nazi gas-chamber. Tell us how we know.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Hundreds of thousands of Jews were transported to Treblinka and the other Bug River camps (show me any historian, including the revisionists, who disagrees). A mountain of documents covering the operation. So what happened to those people?

          • thedaywalkr

            “A mountain of documents covering the operation.”

            Link to one.

            ” So what happened to those people?”

            Why don’t you tell us – i.e. instead of offering a non-answer to the questions:

            “Tell us the name of one verified victim of a Nazi gas-chamber. Tell us how we know.”

            Why not provide proof of something?

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Unfortunately, the situation itself does not present us with direct evidence such as film footage of a gassing in progress, official lists of who was murdered in which chamber etc. That doesn’t mean we don’t have proof, however.

            Examples of the documents you ask for are easy to find online or in books; view in museums or in archives. The deportations were undeniable historical occurrences.

            Those people arrived in at those camps in [email protected] custody. But they appear to have vanished. If you cannot provide proof they were alive later elsewhere you should concede they were murdered as the eyewitnesses report and many documents state or imply.

          • thedaywalkr

            “That doesn’t mean we don’t have proof, however.”

            I asked you to provide proof, you cannot. Just admit it.

            “Examples of the documents you ask for are easy to find online or in books; view in museums or in archives. The deportations were undeniable historical occurrences.”

            Evidence of deportations to wartime work camps for people deemed enemies of the state AMOUNT TO NOTHING. We did it here in the US to Germans, Italians and Japanese. Does that mean we committed genocide?

            “Those people arrived in at those camps in [email protected] custody. But they appear to have vanished. If you cannot provide proof they were alive later elsewhere you should concede they were murdered as the eyewitnesses report and many documents state or imply.”

            This is fucking laughable! Just because people in a time of war – WAR – went missing after the war – a war that literally split the world in half for the next 70 years – proves nothing! The whole of Europe was completely shuffled during and after WWII and then separated by an Iron Curtain and you think that people missing is “proof” of genocide. Take this shit somewhere else idiot!

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I am not being patronizing, but you don’t understand the reason why those people were taken to the camps.

            Hundreds of thousands of Jews transported to Treblinka. They disappear. Documents and witnesses testify they were murdered. It’s enough. It’s proof.

            Treblinka was an extermination centre. And the Holocaust happened.

          • thedaywalkr

            I am being patronizing, you don’t understand the reason why those people were taken to the camps.

            If the reason was to kill them why would the German bother bringing them to the camps?

            “Hundreds of thousands of Jews transported to Treblinka. They disappear. Documents and witnesses testify they were murdered. It’s enough. It’s proof.”

            Show me the documents! You will likely be able to show documents of people arriving at Treblinka, but that proves NOTHING! Your idea of proof is so fucking flawed I don’t even know why I continue to do this with you.

            Millions of people were displaced by the war. MILLIONS! Hundreds of thousands of Jews being missing (which you cannot prove) isn’t proof of genocide. Your willingness to leap huge logical chasms is fucking stunning.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Some of the documents are available online. You should find them yourself, contact the archives etc…

            Only genuine transit camps have reception and departure documentation. We have the train timetables, witnesses among the railway staff, official letters from the various bodies involved…

            But I’ve never found from any source a letter that goes “When I was at Treblinka…” or any trace of anyone who was sent FROM there to somewhere else.

            The died in the camp.

            This has nothing to do with displacement. Contact the Museum at Westerbork concentration camp — transports of Dutch Jews left from there for Sobibor. With respect, you know nothing about this.

            Pls reply with details of how you think the Germans organised a transport of Jews.

            Over a million people sent to the Bug River camps did not simply “go missing”. They disappeared without trace. If they were simply wandering, most would’ve shown up somewhere. But they didn’t.

            Because they were murdered.

          • Hadding Scott

            Unsupported and UNSUPPORTABLE assertion.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Have you ever gone through any of the documentation concerning the transports?

            It is for the revisionists to support their claim Treblinka was a transit camp. If it were, documentation should be easy to come by, and likewise personal and official proofs the people taken to the Bug River camps were alive later. Such is very easy to get hold of for the genuine transit camps.

          • Hadding Scott

            Again, this is putting the burden of proof on the accused. Prove that the crime didn’t happen!

            Why do the Holohoaxsters do this? Because they recognize — contrary to what the general public has been led to believe for 70 years — that they have no proof on THEIR side.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Where did those missing people go?

          • thedaywalkr

            I’ve already covered this. If you cannot keep up I cannot help you.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Okay, then feel free to take your doubts and shove them up your Nuzi hole, you human sphincter.

          • thedaywalkr

            You Jew Faggots are obsessed with your assholes. It’s going to be the hole you find yourselves in, in due time.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Google Ernst Rohm. Your side was founded by brown-shirted fudge packers, not ours.

          • thedaywalkr

            …and you know damn well what happened to Rohm, don’t you faggot?

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Yeah, his lover betrayed him and Germany.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            BTW, I’m a man who is happily married to a wonderful woman. We have five terrific kids together. I have nothing else going “on the side”, so your stupid insult shot straight into the dirt.
            Look, if you actually want to get under my skin then the insult has to be based in reality, otherwise it has no effect. I demand better insults. THINK HARDER.

          • thedaywalkr

            No. In fact I will think less and yet be more efficient by simply reusing a previous comment of mine:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/11cfb81a8fe87d8d3b5563cd274224f84d8401b7a1784aafef832420ad482cd3.png

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            No. In fact I will think less
            That’s standard Nuzi protocol, yes.

          • Hadding Scott

            Are you married to a Negress?

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Nope, a Jewess. What, do you have a thing for chocolate?

          • Jon Steele

            BTW, I’m a man who is happily married to a wonderful woman.

            What’s his name? Lol.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            LOL no, I’m not into that gay Nuzi crap, Google Ernst Rohm, LOL.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            No, see, if you want your insults to have any bite to them whatsoever they have to be based in reality. You are basically shooting at the ground and expecting me to yell “ouch”. It doesn’t work that way, Pippi. Learn from this. I DEMAND BETTER INSULTS.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            I noticed that your profile is private, but mine is public. Why do you suppose that is?

          • Jon Steele

            More Jewish scatalogical venom. In due time sexual deviants were purged from the party same like you very hostile and evil parasites will be from this earth.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Hypocrite.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            You mean the sexual deviants like Hiitler’s brown shirts? Those guys were pretty gross. Google Ernst Rohm.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Why is your profile private? What are you writing that you don’t want everyone else to read?

          • Jon Steele

            F*ck you, you nasty, holohoax-believing Jew. You just gave yourself away with that vile scatological venom.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Oh dear, it looks like I have met my new best friend. You and I are going to be spending a lot of time together. A LOT of time.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Why is your profile private? What are you hiding from everyone?

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Get screwed, you hypocritical jackass. Nobody cares about your butthurt feelings.

          • Jon Steele

            Why is the burden of proof ALWAYS on us non-believers in this historical fraud??? Read “The Hoax of the Twentieth Century” by Prof. Arthur R. Butz!

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            That book was clearly meant as a joke. I mean, come on, didn’t you notice his name?

          • Jon Steele

            Anyone ever notice how Jews are fixated with the anus? Sick vermin…

            Hitler was right.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Did you know that Hiitler’s Brown Shirts were all homosexual men? If you don’t believe me, Google Ernst Rohm.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            I noticed that your profile is private, but mine is public. Why do you suppose that is?

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            The burden of proof is always on people like you because you deny history, are genocidal maniacs, and generally have less value than a bag of fertilizer.

          • Jon Steele

            “Genocidal maniacs” is the sole domain of the Bolshevik and Zionist Jews. People like me deny LIES.

            Hitler was right. Boy, oh boy, was he right.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Ummmmmm, you basically wrecked your own argument. Have you ever been tested for schizophrenia?

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Why is your profile private? What are you writing that you don’t want everyone else to read?

          • Jon Steele

            “The burden of proof is always on people like you because you deny history…blah, blah, blah…”

            I deny FAUX history.

            “It is these lying ‘eyewitnesses’ that the ‘holocau$t’ scam relies upon. Unfortunately for The Believers, Revisionists research what these shysters actually say. The more you look the worse it gets for the pathetic story, hence the intimidation and jail sentences of anyone who scrutinizes the specifics.”

            –Hannover

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            What would you accept as proof for the Holocaust?

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            I noticed that your profile is private, but mine is public. Why do you suppose that is? What are you hiding?

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            I think I’ve heard of that guy, he is good friends with professor Ulysses Peter Uranus.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            I noticed that your profile is private, but mine is public. Why do you suppose that is?

          • Hadding Scott

            The stated reason was always to get the Jews out of Europe, or at least away from the heart of Europe. As late as the summer of 1942 Hitler was still talking privately about sending the Jews to Madagascar after the war. This is long after your Holocaust is supposed to have started.

          • George Clark

            Bond knows he is lying all these items have been disproven over and over again. But he just keeps it going. Why I wonder don’t real Jews stop by at his site. The answer, because he is a fake and they are not amused . They also know it is a lie.

          • Jon Steele

            Bullshit! It’s not “proof.” Millions were dislocated from the homelands thanks to that Jew-fomented war.

            “The great majority of the millions allegedly exterminated were east European,
            not German or west European, Jews. For that reason study of the problem
            via population statistics has been difficult to impossible, but it is a fact that
            there are no longer large communities of Jews in Poland. However, the Germans
            were only one of several parties involved in moving Jews around. The
            Soviets deported virtually all of the Jews of eastern Poland to their interior in
            1940. After the war, with Polish and other Jews pouring out of the east into
            occupied west Germany, the Zionists moved large numbers to Palestine, and
            the U.S. and other countries absorbed many Jews, in most cases under conditions
            making impossible a numerical accounting. Moreover, the Polish borders
            were changed drastically at the end of the war; the country was literally moved
            west.”_ –Prof. Arthur R. Butz

          • Hadding Scott

            There is no German document that talks about killing all the Jews, and no document that talks about killing people with gas. People who say that there is a mountain of such documents are either naively assuming that these documents exist, or they are lying.

            The documents that do exist talk about resettling the Jews, either in Madagascar or in the east. The way that the professional Holohoaxsters deal with this is to assume that the documents are written in codewords. You can make anybody say anything if you start from the premise that his words are all code. It’s nuts.

          • George Clark

            He is a sick twisted person. He is gay, the way he speaks about the black Muslims makes me sick. Cuck? Absolutely. I believe these two think a special place will be reserved for them by the so called hook nosed endangered species. None of them are even Jews. This is a fact. They are mental cases. They will sit and watch their country burn and their women get raped and still spout their twisted rhetoric. These two and a couple others are wired backwards from the factory.

          • Hadding Scott

            Well, the question was about Edith Stein who was sent to Auschwitz, and we know that the gas-chamber stories about Auschwitz are bunk.

            The Aktion Reinhardt camps are a more difficult matter because the facilities no longer exist. However, I can point out that killing people with exhaust from diesel engines is nonsense. So, you have to change that standard element of the story just to make it possible.

            If the best argument that you can make there is “Where did the Jews go?” then you don’t have much of an argument, because statistics about Jewish populations, even those compiled by Jews, vary greatly. In the words of Mark Twain, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. If you want to prove that case then you have to show the dead bodies, and you can’t.

            The stated intention of the German government, in its own documents, was to relocate the Jews away from the heart of Europe. There is no real evidence that they did otherwise.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            What exactly do you think a “gas chamber” is?

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            If you want to prove that case then you have to show the dead bodies, and you can’t.
            Ever hear of the Nuzi ovens? If you are looking for their bodies you will have to check in the clouds.
            Oh, and plenty of mass graves have been found BTW.

          • Hadding Scott

            Cremation leaves 4-6lbs. of bone. You’re talking about thousands of tons of crushed bone just from Birkenau. There’s no way to make that disappear.

            There is no mass-grave of Jews at the Aktion Reinhardt camps. Caroline Sturdy Coles looked for a mass-grave of Jews at Treblinka II recently and couldn’t find one. Instead she dug up the Christian graves at Treblinka I.

            It doesn’t really help you to make excuses for not being able to show a corpse of a gassed Jew. It’s just an admission that your story is impossible to substantiate.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Cremation leaves 4-6lbs. of bone. You’re talking about thousands of tons of crushed bone just from Birkenau. There’s no way to make that disappear.
            Ever hear of a thing called “fertilizer”?

          • Hadding Scott

            Marcel Nadjari says that they dumped the bone-fragments into the River Vistula. That’s thousands of tons of crushed bone-fragments.

            Now, maybe you think that Nadjari was a liar. The truth is, he must be a liar.

            But if bone from crematoria was being distributed as fertilizer there should have been partial bags of human-bone fertilizer all over Europe. Where is one?

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Ummmm, bone fragments are scattered all over that area. Didn’t you read the article?

          • Hadding Scott

            At Birkenau? Not that I ever heard.

            There are cremated remains scattered on the ground at Treblinka now because Jews bring their parents’ remains and scatter them there, for whatever reason.

            The alleged death-toll for Treblinka is supposed to be 700 to 900 thousand. (Notice the variability; there would be no variability if the deaths were documented.)

            That would make something like 1750 to 2250 TONS of bone-fragments. You think that such a quantity of bone-fragments could be simply “scattered” around Treblinka?

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            I’m crying bullcrap to your Treblinka explanation.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            No: It’s proven beyond all doubt there are mass graves and innumerable human remains at the Bug River camps. Caroline Colls study is just part of the evidence.

          • Hadding Scott

            What Caroline’s Dirty Coals found was not evidence of ANYTHING.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            We can’t do these studies ourselves and have to trust the experts on the spot are proficient and acting and speaking in good faith. No investigation is perfect, but I believe Caroline Colls’ team carried out a thorough and profession examination of that site.

          • Hadding Scott

            And that demonstrates once again that you’re an idiot.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I’ve written a short introductory OP about race and folk and the Jews as Männel uses the terms in the chapter your quote came from. You are naturally invited to join the discussion if you’d like to.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            “Caroline’s Dirty Coals”

            Mr Scott, despite on this thread being sworn at and told to kill myself, I have tried to present my views and arguments civilly and without personal insult.

            My interest and involvement in this issue is not casual and I have for two years genuinely sought to know the truth of it.

            You are dismissing a professional forensic expert and her work in the same way you dismissed my reply to you about the use of the German words Volk and Rasse. But you don’t know anything like enough about these issues to do so.

          • Hadding Scott

            Caroline Sturdy Coles was only in her 20s when she did that so-called study at Treblinka, and what she did was laughable. She was digging up bones in a Christian cemetery that wasn’t even near the place where gassings of Jews was alleged. Totally absurd.

          • proudzionist

            The crematoria of the concentration camps were “industrial” ovens, specifically designed/built for mass extermination and extreme heat, nothing like the single-body crematoria in customary use. A small amount of ash/bone fragments from each body did remain. The ashes of thousands of people fit into one truck. The ash was scattered around in fields, buried, or – in Auschwitz, for instance – dumped into a river. Also, piles of ash were discovered at some camps (Maidanek, Sobibor), and others.

            Your absurd claims of ‘It didn’t happen because it couldn’t have happened’ are about as intellectually and scientifically valid as a kindergarten student’s attempts to explain something of which he/she is completely ignorant. You embarrass yourself with such baseless denials, but you’re too much of an idiot to ‘appreciate’ the embarrassment.

            I guess, in your juvenile mindset, man has never traveled to the moon because it’s just really, really, really too far away.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            However, I can point out that killing people with exhaust from diesel engines is nonsense.
            It’s a common form of suicide.

          • Hadding Scott

            Not with a diesel engine, you retard.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Same exhaust, regard.

          • Hadding Scott

            No, it’s not the same exhaust.

            Gasoline combustion is much faster than diesel combustion, and produces much more carbon monoxide. Diesel combustion produces very little carbon monoxide, and also includes a lot of unused oxygen.

            It’s easy to understand why somebody like you can still believe in the Holocaust. It’s because you think you’re so smart that you don’t check anything.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Test your theory out, let me know how it works for you.

          • Hadding Scott

            It’s been tested. Pat Buchanan wrote in 1990: “In 1988, 97 kids trapped 400 feet underground in a Washington, D.C., tunnel while two locomotives spewed diesel exhaust into the car, emerged unharmed after 45 minutes.”

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            No, see, I want you to test that theory on yourself. Take some diesel fuel, set it on fire in an airtight room, and let me know how it goes for you.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Petrol… diesel… we don’t know for sure which was used. It’s not about exactly how the gas chambers worked — but rest assured they did.

          • Hadding Scott

            That’s the new position, since it’s been pointed out that diesel exhaust is not toxic. After decades of saying that it was diesel, they say, “Oh maybe it wasn’t diesel….”

          • Lawrence_Bond

            The eyewitness reports are inconclusive on the point.

          • Hadding Scott

            Really?

            Yankiel Wiernik, in his book A Year in Treblinka, said that diesel engines were used. Was he lying?

            Adolf Eichmann said that a diesel engine had been used for gassing people when he was on trial in Jerusalem. Was he lying?

            The answer is, YES, THEY WERE LYING.

            But if you’re going to say that they lied about that, then you can’t pretend that the remainders of their stories are beyond question.

            It’s also a significant reproach against the Israeli court that tried Eichmann, that they let that pass.

            Yet as late as the 1980s the accusations against John Demjanjuk involved diesel gas-chambers. It was in this context that Pat Buchanan stirred controversy by writing that diesel exhaust was harmless.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I couldn’t say if those people were deliberately telling untruths, Hadding. After reading the eyewitness reports my conclusion was you couldn’t be sure if a diesel or petrol engine was used.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            My desire is not to pick holes, and there are many, in the arguments of either side. I wanted to know what happened to the Jews who once lived all round where I’m sitting now. And my present understanding is that on balance the evidence supports far more the orthodox account.

          • Hadding Scott

            Bullshit. You argue like a religious believer who doesn’t demand proof so much as look for excuses to go on believing.

            An unbiased person would not continue asserting that Jews were mass-murdered, as if it were a metaphysical certitude, when faced with the fact that there is no direct evidence for it.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            There is direct evidence but, unfortunately, you discount it.

          • Hadding Scott

            What direct evidence? I ask you to name one verifiably gassed Jew and you won’t do it.

            There is no way in a proper courtroom to convict somebody of murder without first demonstrating that somebody has in fact been murdered. But in considerations of the Jews’ Holocaust, this crucial step is bypassed.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            The perpetrators did their best to keep it a secret. I believe most of the witnesses are reliable.

            Constantly demanding evidence that doesn’t exist proves nothing. We have far more direct evidence of the mass murders by shooting. They prove the lengths to which the [email protected] were prepared to go.

            Seen as a whole, I believe the known evidence supports the orthodox version of events sufficiently. It would be better if we knew more for sure: film footage of a gassing, complete records for all the camps…

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            I gave you plenty of names. Take your unreasonable doubts and shove them.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            So set fire to some in a small room with poor ventilation and breath in the fumes. Let me know how you feel.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            because statistics about Jewish populations, even those compiled by Jews, vary greatly
            Ummmmm, yeah, because 80-year-old data on remote ghost villages can be a little difficult to verify. I mean, the Nuzis liquidated entire communities for crying out loud.

          • Jon Steele

            Shove up your holohoax fables back up your ass, you holohoax-believing blockhead.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Got nothing on what I said, huh?

          • Jon Steele

            Yeah, I do: You’re fucking LYING.

            P.S. Those those decent people out there, please pardon my Yiddish.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Bullcrap.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            I noticed that your profile is private, but mine is public. Why do you suppose that is?

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Why is your profile private? What are you hiding from everyone else?

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            The stated intention of the German government, in its own documents, was to relocate the Jews away from the heart of Europe.
            And they did so by sending them up chimneys.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            “If the best argument that you can make there is “Where did the Jews go?” then you don’t have much of an argument, because statistics about Jewish populations, even those compiled by Jews, vary greatly”

            It’s got nothing to do with stats about Jewish populations.

            Hundreds of thousands of Jews were transported to those camps, that’s not disputed. But there is no evidence of a single one of them being sent elsewhere. Or of more than a few escapees being alive later elsewhere. Unlike with the genuine transit camps, there are no letters saying, “When I was at Treblinka…”, no trace of a further existence at all…

            Those people just vanished.

            Because they died there.

            It’s the proof.

          • Hadding Scott

            It’s not proof of anything. If Lawrence Bond’s nextdoor neighbor disappears, it’s not reasonable to assume that Lawrence Bond killed him! Even if we know that Lawrence Bond dislikes his nextdoor neighbor, that would not be a valid inference.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            If Bond’s grandfather and father raged against that neighbour, believed his a “bacterium” that had to be destroyed for the good of mankind and wrote books about how racially evil he was… Then if Bond himself organised hundreds of different official bodies and private firms, all in writing, and took that neighbour to a camp. And if hundreds of eyewitnesses and documents testified that everyone who went to the camp was murdered. And Bond was still raging pathological hatred for the neighbour. And if after seventy years there was absolutely no trace of the neighbour, nothing anywhere despite massive and exhaustive searching.

            Then we can be sure old Bond did that neighbour in.

          • Hadding Scott

            There are no genuine witnesses to any gassing. There are very few alleged witnesses, and their accounts do not withstand scrutiny. I have already talked about Marcel Nadjari, who claimed that 3000 could be packed into a room of 2260 square feet, and other absurdities.

            You know who introduced the metaphor of using concentration-camps to isolate a BACILLUS? It was MUSSOLINI, referring to the removal of Communist agitators from Italian society. The National-Socialists got it from him.

            Are you going to infer that Mussolini operated extermination camps? I have not noticed that he was ever accused of that, but by your reasoning he should be.

            But this is all speculation. Why are you speculating? Because there is no direct evidence for the Holocaust.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I believe most of the witnesses simply related their experiences, naturally making some errors of memory. Of course claims proven false must be disregarded.

            “You know who introduced the metaphor of using concentration-camps to isolate a BACILLUS?”

            The entry of such terms into German and other languages to refer to the Jews is something I know a fair deal about. Started well before the [email protected], certainly — but taken more literally by them. It is mistaken to see it as purely metaphorical.

          • Hadding Scott

            You really do love them Jews.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I have come to respect and feel sympathy for them.

          • Hadding Scott

            It’s ALL about population-statistics. When Yehuda Bauer said in 1989 that the death-toll for Auschwitz had to be drastically reduced, it was to bring the total of alleged Jewish deaths into accord with the figure of 6 million, which HE SAID was based on population-statistics.

            I don’t believe that the 6 million figure is based on population-statistics, since there were only 4 million Jews in Axis Europe at its maximum expanse. Rather, the alleged statistics on Jewish populations were cooked to conform with the imperative of finding that 6 million were missing.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            “The stated intention of the German government, in its own documents, was to relocate the Jews away from the heart of Europe. There is no real evidence that they did otherwise.”

            The stated and stated and stated over again believe of the extreme antisemites from before the [email protected] and including them was that the Jews were so racially evil and subversive they had to be destroyed. I’ve studied hundreds of their works in the original language.

            The Jews were not just being relocated as you imply. They were being disposed of.

            There is a mountain of documentary evidence to prove that.

          • Hadding Scott

            Okay so then using your logic, we should assume that all the Democrats in the United States who hate Donald Trump are plotting his death. And if anything happens to him, all the Democrats should be held responsible, because they clearly had a motive, right?

            Disliking or strongly disapproving of some person = intending to kill that person.

            That’s how you think. You are a simpleton.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Dislike for President Trump is nothing compared to the H!tler’s pathological hatred for the Jews.

            It wasn’t hatred that led the [email protected] to murder the Jews though. It was their beliefs about them. The believed they simply had to be destroyed — that mankind could thrive.

          • Hadding Scott

            Tell us where it is written that the Jews must be destroyed. Whatever you can quote that seems to say that, will be in fact ambiguous. There is no clear statement to that effect, much less an elaboration about how it is to be done.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I will post OPs in the near future giving examples (on my channel).

          • Hadding Scott

            Since you claim that you’re not a Jew, what’s the payoff for you in running interference for the Jews here? Does it make you feel that you are a good little boy? Is it going to get you into Heaven with Jesus?

          • Lawrence_Bond

            It doesn’t make me feel good at all. I know the Germans and how what their relatives did still haunts many of them. Another regime like that and it’s over. Just wanna do my tiny bit…

          • Lawrence_Bond

            You haven’t read the Männel book, have you? Some [email protected] site fed that quote to you or you got it from a Google search and stuck it in because it appears to support you claims. But you don’t understand [email protected] and antisemitic literature as a subject — because you’ve never studied it at source. That’s why you refused to go into it.

            [email protected] is the destruction of an “evil” race. The Jews. They meant it. And they attempted it.

            And that’s why you must be stopped.

          • Hadding Scott

            I am the translator of Hansjoerg Maennel you stupid ass. I translated it 20 years ago. I still have some sections from it that I never posted.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            You may have translated it but from what I’ve read you’ve misinterpreted it.

          • Hadding Scott

            Well, if you think that you’ve seen a problem then why are you keeping everybody in suspense? Spit it out.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            As I say, I have legit reasons not to post on this blog anymore. The poster New Hampshire Bound says he knows you and I’ve told him you’ll be treated well if you respond to my invitation. I don’t mean it rudely but this is my last post here. Hopefully see you soon – if not thank you for putting me onto Männel and my best wishes for Christmas.

          • Hadding Scott

            I am quite sure that if you had caught me in an error you would have hurried to post it here, instead of trying to coax me to jump through your hoop to find out what it is.

            What a faggot.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            PS: am quite happy to discuss this with you but only if you show some personal respect. My posts are being deleted here — pls comment on the OP I posted on my channel should you wish to proceed. Any comments you make will not be edited or removed.

          • proudzionist

            “However, I can point out that killing people with exhaust from diesel engines is nonsense.”

            NONSENSE! In a closed chamber, of course diesel fumes will kill. There was actually a study on this, and its results are reported in “The Toxicity of Fumes from a Diesel Engine Under Four Different Running Conditions”, by Pattle et al., British Journal of Industrial Medicine, 1957, Vol 14, p. 47-55. These researchers ran a few experiments in which various animals were exposed to diesel fumes, and studied the results.

            In the experiments, the exhaust of a small diesel engine (568 cc, 6 BHP) was connected to a chamber 10 cubic meters (340 cubic feet) in volume, and the animals were put inside it. In all cases, the animals died. Death was swifter when the intake of air to the engine was restricted, as this causes a large increase in the amount of carbon monoxide (CO) that is emitted. (See, for instance, “diesel Engine Reference Book”, by Lilly, 1985, p. 18/8, where it is stated that at a high air/fuel ratio the concentration of CO is only a few parts per million but for lower ratios (25:1) the concentration of CO can rise up to 3,000 ppm. It is very easy to restrict the air intake; the British researchers did so by partially covering the air intake opening with a piece of metal.)

            Even in cases where the CO output was low, the animals still died from other toxic components – mainly irritants and nitrogen dioxide.
            Now, the diesel engines used in Treblinka were much larger – they belonged to captured Soviet T-34 tanks. These tanks weighed 26-31 tons (depending on the model) and had a 500 BHP engine (compared to a mere 6 BHP in the British experiments). The volume of the extermination chambers in Treblinka is, of course, a factor. But the chambers’ volume was about 60 cubic meters (2040 cubic feet); this is 6 times more than those in the British experiments, but the difference in the size of the engines is much larger than a factor of 6.
            It should be remembered that what matters in CO poisoning is not the concentration of CO, but the ratio of CO to oxygen. In a small room, crammed full of people, oxygen levels drop quickly, thus making death by CO poisoning faster. As noted, other toxic components in the fumes further accelerate mortality.

            The SS was aware of the fact that cramming as many people as possible into the gas chamber, thus leaving no empty spaces, would accelerate mortality. This is evident, for instance, from a letter regarding “gassing vans” (used in the Chelmno extermination camp and other locations) sent to SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Walter Rauff, 5 June 1942. The letter is quite long (more of it is reproduced in the file of original Nazi documents), but here is the relevant part (Nazism: A History in Documents and Eye Witness Accounts, 1941-1945″ vol. 2, document 913).

            You, sir, are a liar, a fraud, a huckster. You offer NO evidence for your denials, and neither you nor anyone else believe them. It’s very easy to deny. I can deny that the Earth rotates, or that humans have but one heart and one brain. It’s an entirely different matter to actually BELIEVE such denials. You don’t believe a word of holocaust denial, and you know it. You just engage in it because you’re an a-hole who enjoys sowing discord.

          • proudzionist

            www [dot] hdot [dot] org/debunking-denial/ds2-enough-carbon-monoxide/

            What the Holocaust deniers say about the Pattle et al study.

            Berg ignores the fact that some animals died in Modes B and C and tries to explain away the importance of the finding that all of the animals in Mode D died by focusing on the fact that the deaths took longer than 30 minutes—which is what the eyewitnesses say was about the time it took to kill a small room or truck full of human beings.

            However, comparing the conditions for the animals in the Pattle study with the conditions in the gas chambers for people is comparing apples and oranges:

            First: The method of introduction of the animals into the cage and the people into the gas chambers was fundamentally different.
            The small animals in the Pattle study were healthy and not stressed when they were placed in the chamber. The Germans, however, often drove their terrified human victims at a run into the gas chambers using whips, dogs and guns. People who are panicked or panting heavily will breathe in the carbon monoxide, smoke, soot and the other toxins more quickly. They also exhale carbon dioxide that builds up in the atmosphere which further disables their ability to breathe freely. Further, many of those murdered were elderly, very young, or physically debilitated due to starvation and sickness—all of which would have affected their intake of carbon monoxide positively.[6]

            Second: The size of the box and gas chambers relative to their occupants was very unequal, making comparison between the effects on the animals in a box and people in a gas chamber irrelevant.

            In the Pattle et al study the small animals were placed in an enclosure that had a volume of 10 cubic meters (353 cubic feet) of air. In the gas chambers, hundreds of human beings were pushed tightly into a space that contained somewhere between 1,412 and 1,765 cubic feet. Their bodies alone displaced most of the air in the space and what little was left to breathe was rapidly replaced by a soup of toxic gases.

            Corroborating this conclusion is the letter that Willy Just, the foreman of the shop that made the murderous adjustments to the regular trucks to turn them into gas vans, wrote to Walther Rauff, the head of the gas van program. In it Just noted that shortening the length of the larger gas vans by three feet would mean that the space to be filled with toxic exhaust gases was smaller and the time it took to kill the victims was “considerably less.”[7]

            If, in Mode D, Pattle had put the animals into an area only an inch larger than they were, how much more quickly would they have died? We don’t know, but it is safe to assume it would have taken less than 3 hours and 20 minutes.

            Read Pattle’s paper for yourself, ALL OF IT, you lying piece of garbage.

            www [dot] ncbi [dot] nlm [dot] nih [dot] gov/pmc/articles/PMC1037740/pdf/brjindmed00217-0053 [dot] pdf

          • TL;DR
            Here’s the deal, jew. I picked out two sentences, one from each of your comments. I googled your claims in each comment, and caught you lying. Nothing else you say carries even the slightest bit of weight. You’re busted.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a0afb7bb3a3e6b742fd714f883b23ef1bfd400ab76a98bf011ec5ee3c2658b10.jpg

          • proudzionist

            ” picked out two sentences, one from each of your comments. I googled your claims in each comment, and caught you lying.”

            That’s your problem, schmuck. The only “evidence” you idiots ever come up with is from a “google search” of a few words. Heaven forbid you read a an article in a peer-reviewed history journal, read a history book, take a history class, visit a holocaust museum, talk to a holocaust survivor, visit the multitude of holocaust-related archives in Germany, visit the concentration camp remains throughout Poland, etc.

            But you have no interest in doing any of this, because you know exactly what you’d find…the truth. The irony is that you already know the truth; you just don’t want to acknowledge it publicly. And THAT is “the deal”.

          • Hadding Scott

            I understand that they have a lot of shoes and eyeglasses at the Holohoax Museum, but no soap.

            I actually went to the USHMM about 12 years ago, and was not allowed to see the exhibit, because you have to make an appointment. It’s the only museum that I ever saw that required appointments.

          • proudzionist

            From the USHMM website…

            “During the spring and summer months, we often have more visitors than can safely fit in the exhibition space. These timed tickets prevent the Museum from exceeding the capacity of our exhibitions and provide you with a comfortable experience. Tickets allow Museum visitors to enter the Permanent Exhibition at the time on the ticket or up to one hour later.”

            Of course, an idiot like you (who lies about having visited USHMM) would have others believe that the museum didn’t permit you in to the exhibit because there was actually nothing there to see, right? It’s all a hoax, right? Did you happen to ask people coming out of the exhibit what they saw? Nah, I didn’t think so. How could you have…you weren’t there.

          • Hadding Scott

            I was there in the summer of 2004 with my girlfriend. We went in there after going up the Washington Monument, which is very close to the Jews’ museum.

            We went into the lobby, which is quite large, and found out much to our surprise that an appointment was needed in order to view the exhibit. The place was not so packed with people that this made any sense. If in fact we could have gone in after only a short wait, the person at the entrance to the exhibit should have made that clear, but she didn’t. So we went straight to the Smithsonian instead.

            Your assertion that Holocaust Revisionists don’t go to the USHMM is just wrong. Such museums are valuable to Revisionists, because they establish a standard narrative that is easier to attack than a constantly changing narrative. Robert Faurisson visited the USHMM on the day that it opened, in fact. There’s a video of it.

          • proudzionist

            You’ve never been there, and you know it. And if you want others to believe that you were there, please provide “verifiable” proof!

          • Hadding Scott

            I don’t know why you assume that I would have such an aversion to seeing piles of shoes etc.

            I’ve written two or three articles that refer to information from the USHMM’s website. It’s not a problem for me.

          • proudzionist

            “I don’t know why you assume that I would have such an aversion to seeing piles of shoes etc.”

            I never said or implied any such aversion.

            “I’ve written two or three articles that refer to information from the USHMM’s website. It’s not a problem for me.”

            I can only assume that anything you’ve written is a lie. Furthermore, anyone can write anything “that refer to information from the USHMM’s website”. That doesn’t mean you were there. You weren’t. Truth is a problem for you.

          • Hadding Scott

            And the Proud Zionist Jew apparently recognized that his ass was whipped, and deleted the comment to which I was replying.

          • Copyright101

            In a similar but much more humble vein – I’ve started collecting books written by or about survivors, eyewitness accounts etc. If Book A establishes the truth, then it can be contrasted with Book B, which is also the truth. And if certain contradictions arise. Well, what could that mean?

            Just reading survivor stories online, usually via news sites, one finds all sorts of strange contradictions or just vagueness avoiding detail. The consistencies are also telling.

            I’ve suspected for a long time that merely collating all the widely available accounts would probably sink the whole thing.

          • Hadding Scott

            You’re talking about trying to untie the Gordian Knot instead of just cutting it. There are big problems in the Holohoax that make focusing on the little problems not worth the time.

            For example, after Ernst Zündel’s 1988 False News Trial in Canada, where Fred Leuchter and David Irving testified, the Jews realized that they had to get their Holohoax house in order. So, Yehuda Bauer of the Yad Vashem Holohoax Museum in Israel said that the death-toll for Auschwitz had to be drastically reduced, and it was reduced in 1990 from 4 million people to about 1.5 million people, to make the total of alleged dead Jews in all the camps add up to 6 million. But this created another problem, because the 4 million figure had been based on the forced confession of a former Auschwitz commandant, Rudolf Hoess. That confession, which used to be a main pillar of the Holohoax and is still often invoked, has thus been exposed as false, by the Holohoaxsters themselves.

            Why? Because if they had to choose between admitting that the Hoess confession was largely false, or continuing to claim impossible death-tolls at the various camps, the risk of the former option was less catastrophic.

            But the more falsehoods are exposed in relation to the Holohoax, the less credible it becomes on its face.

            Did you know that the US Occupational Military Government in Germany (OMGUS) immediately after the war published a film claiming that the number of deaths in the concentration camps added up to 20 million? Until the 1970s non-Jewish deaths were alleged to be the majority; now the non-Jewish deaths are said to be less than half a million. The 6 million figure for Jews however has been maintained, you can be sure.

          • Copyright101

            I’m not saying it’s the killer app, just a way of chipping away at the edifice. In keeping with:

            But the more falsehoods are exposed in relation to the Holohoax, the less credible it becomes on its face.

          • Hadding Scott

            Well if you like reading that stuff, go for it. I’d rather be translating some Latin.

          • Copyright101

            I wouldn’t say I liked it exactly. . .

            These books and stories are the day to day ammunition they use in support of the narrative.Undermining them is worth a try.

          • Hadding Scott

            You’d probably do better then reading the works of people who have already digested the available information. There is a large body of Holohoax Revisionist literature out there now.

          • Copyright101

            Thanks!

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Such collections already exist. A fine example being the one in Cologne main library. Long racks of shelves of such testimonies. The ones I’ve read are just simple straightforward accounts of experiences.

            You are approaching this with the unshakable assumption that these accounts must be fatally flawed. That is never the way to study anything.

          • Copyright101

            No, it’s just when one reads them one finds flaws.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Well, I will await you conclusions with interest. If you’d also post them at my channel that’d be great.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            But if they were perfect you’d say they were too perfect to be true.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Where did those shoes and eyeglasses come from?

          • Hadding Scott

            I don’t know. It’s entirely possible that the USHMM bought them from thrift-stores and decided to pretend that they were shoes and eyeglasses from Auschwitz.

            The Auschwitz Museum itself was caught in such a fraud in 2004, when somebody noticed that a suitcase that was supposed to have belonged to Hana Brady was not the same suitcase at all.

            There’s no way to know from looking at such things what if anything happened to the people who owned them. It’s all imagination.

            The reason why there was an accumulation of shoes at Auschwitz is that the prisoners were issued wooden clogs to wear instead. Why? I don’t know. But the pile of shoes does not have any relationship to people being killed.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            What personal effects would you qualify as evidence from the Holocaust?

          • Hadding Scott

            First, I want to point out that this Jew is still defending the traditional Holohoax claim that diesel engines were used to kill people, which Lawrence_Bond has abandoned.

            When you restrict air-intake to a diesel engine and run it very hard, you are forcing it to operate abnormally, and under those conditions it can generate significant amounts of carbon monoxide.

            But why do that? If you’re going to use an engine, just use a gasoline engine. Then you don’t have to finagle it to get plenty of carbon monoxide.

            But why use an engine at all? And why use petrochemicals to generate exhaust, when such fuel was in great shortage? It’s as if the Germans had an overabundance of these things and were not the nation of engineers that we all know them to be.

            A simple way to generate carbon monoxide is just to heat woodchips. Of woodchips, the Germans had plenty. They would not have wasted fuel and functional engines just to do that.

          • proudzionist

            “First, I want to point out that this Jew is still defending the traditional Holohoax claim that diesel engines were used to kill people…”

            I’m not “defending” anything. I’m just citing history, as documented in official and historical records. Your denials of fact would come under the category of hoaxes.

            “Carbon monoxide worked slower than Zyklon B, but it worked well enough for Himmler to proceed. While he was … in Lublin, he sent a written order to Krüger: the “resettlement” of the entire Jewish population of the Government General was to be completed by December 31, 1942. With the exception of a few collection camps for Jews in some major cities, no Jews were to remain in Poland. All Jewish laborers had to complete their jobs or be transferred to one of the collection camps. These measures were prerequisites for the Nazi “new order” in Europe, since any remaining Jews would stimulate resistance and provide a source of moral and physical pestilence.” (Himmler to Krüger, 19 July 1942, NA RG 238, NO-5574, quoted by Arad, Belzec, 47)(Breitman, 238)

          • Hadding Scott

            See there? Himmler talked about “resettlement.”

            This is what I mean by interpreting all the German documents as if they were written in codewords. It’s the only way that the Jews can make their Holohoax appear to have any support at all in documents.

          • proudzionist

            “See there? Himmler talked about “resettlement.”

            See there, that was in 1942, before mass gassing/exterminations were underway. Resettlement was the initial goal of your na zi friends. When that became impractical, the “final solution” was implemented. See SS-Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich’s letter to Ministerialdirektor Martin Luther asking for administrative assistance in the implementation of the Final Solution to the Jewish Question, 26 February 1942

            “This is what I mean by interpreting all the German documents as if they were written in codewords. It’s the only way that the Jews can make their Holohoax appear to have any support at all in documents.”

            Really now? So, then, you should have no problem offering up some “German documents” which support your ridiculous holocaust denials. It is, indeed, the Germans’ own documentation of the holocaust (before, during and after its implementation), in film, in writing, and in aural testimony, that is so damning to your insane denials.

          • Jon Steele

            NONSENSE! In a closed chamber, of course diesel fumes will kill.

            Don’t even try it. Engineer Fritz Berg demolished this bullshit narrative years ago. Quit while you’re behind, you holohoax-believing blockhead.

          • Hadding Scott

            Notice, he is not even trying to name a gassed Jew whose death by gas is verifiable. That’s because it can’t be done.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Hi. I’ve just listen to some of your interview with Jim Rizoli — one of my special interests is the modern history of the German Jews (I spend a lot of time in Germany) and if you’d like to we could discuss the subject further. Probably best not on this blog.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            So, I’ve been told that you are a racist Nuzi returd. Nice to meet you.

          • thedaywalkr

            Nice response.

            A+

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            You da man, thank you!

          • thedaywalkr

            You just outed yourself as an Autiste.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Ummmmmm, what?

          • Christmas with Mike

            (It means you’re from Australia.)

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Oy, oy, oy! Cheers and g’day mate shrimp on the barby dingo wallaby outback diggery-doo!!!

          • Christmas with Mike

            Have a bonza wallaby g’day, mate!

            Fosters.

          • Christmas with Mike

            No. Yoda man.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Aaaaaaaaahhhhh!!! That’s hilarious, good job!

          • Hadding Scott

            And eight hours later I still don’t see a name.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            What would you accept as verification?

          • Jon Steele

            The silence is deafening. Lol.

          • thedaywalkr

            ” Do you realize how much pain your words and the horrible images you post cause people, Jewish and non.”

            This is so rich right here. If you took all the words and Memes by all AltRight people on the Internet today and stood them next to all the words, movies and images of all the pornography in history it would be like throwing a snowball (AltRight stuff) into a fucking volcano (Pornography which was started and overwhelmingly dominated by Jews).

            You really want to continue this bullshit about words and horrible images?

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I cannot speak about the situation in America today but know a lot about the German Jews in the C20th. The vast majority lived simply decent lives almost entirely indistinguishable from the non-Jewish Germans.

            Have you read Hans Blüher’s suggestions and ideals for the man-boy relationship in the German youth movements? You probably won’t speak about alleged Jewish perversion if you do.

          • thedaywalkr

            “I cannot speak about the situation in America today but know a lot about the German Jews in the C20th. The vast majority lived simply decent lives almost entirely indistinguishable from the non-Jewish Germans.”

            You must love M&M’s. I have a bag of 100 M&M’s, 99 of them are perfectly normal M&M’s and 1 of them I laced with cyanide. You want some M&M’s?

            “Have you read Hans Blüher’s suggestions and ideals for the man-boy relationship in the German youth movements? You probably won’t speak about alleged Jewish perversion if you do.”

            Alleged? Are you fucking serious? Jews are fucking perverts to the core.:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/238802b69978e7228d6b882647dbf18efb18e59c00f470fa79a07b4d565743e2.png

            But of course talking about Jewish perversion and stories about the German Youth is really missing my point completely. Jewish PORNOGRAPHY was the point. Again if you took all the words and Memes by all AltRight people on the Internet today and stood them next to all the words, movies and images of all the pornography in history it would be like throwing a snowball (AltRight stuff) into a fucking volcano (Pornography which was started and overwhelmingly dominated by Jews). You cannot dispute this, hence your pivot/deflection.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            All I can tell you, thedaywalkr, is that I have studied, in the towns themselves, quite a number of the German Jewish communities, in a couple of cases down to the last Jew ever in them. No one was into the things you accuse them of.

          • thedaywalkr

            Did you document your studies or is this another one of your unproven proofs?

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I’m not saying I did original research. Local historians have sifted through the archives, surveyed the graveyards etc etc. I haven’t found a single town that once had a Jewish community where that isn’t the case.

          • thedaywalkr

            You’re completely lost here. Do you even remember what the subject of this line of back and forth is? We are talking about words and images and mean things people say. Oh and fucking PORNOGRAPHY, a complete scourge on our civilization. Either keep up or shut up. You way out of your fucking league here.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            My replies are totally logical and relevant. I explained why I don’t believe the vast majority of German Jews were involved in porn.

          • Christmas with Mike

            If you don’t like it, don’t watch it.
            It’s as protected as a white nationalist rally, and less harmful to children.

          • thedaywalkr

            No – it’s more protected and it’s much much more harmful to children. You’re as stupid as the previous fuckwit.

          • Christmas with Mike

            My father was a proud fuckwit, as was his father, before him.
            Don’t belittle my people, you honky cracker!!

          • Christmas with Mike

            My father was a proud fuckwit, as was his father, before him.
            Don’t belittle my people, you honky cracker!!

          • Christmas with Mike

            My father was a proud fuckwit, as was his father, before him.
            Don’t belittle my people, you honky cracker!!

          • thedaywalkr

            I see you responded three times for all three of you. Typical Nig Nog Dumb Dog shit.

          • Christmas with Mike

            The API was busted for a few minutes. It must have queued up my submissions. I’ll take care of it. Thanks for the heads up. Nig nog dumb dog shit to you too!

          • thedaywalkr

            I don’t need your explanations faggot.

          • Jon Steele

            F*ck-off you angry coon. Quit belittling ours!

          • Your argument is nil anyways. Porn didn’t gain any steam until the nazis were completely destroyed (post-1960’s) right around the beginning of the modern Jewish takeover and purposeful genocide of whites began.

          • Hadding Scott

            Right you are. Jews are well known for that stuff, whereas only faggots like Larry here even know who Hans Blüher was.

          • john dicarlo

            It’s now about “feelings”. It’s about the truth, and you disseminate LIES lies, like your jew mentors.

          • thedaywalkr

            What the fuck are you talking about you fucking retard?

            What is about “feelings”?

            What is about “the truth”?

            What “lies” have I “disseminate[d]”?

            I fucking hate Jews so tell me who the fuck my “jew mentors” are you stupid fucking clown. Otherwise, find someplace else to prove how fucking dumb you are.

          • Jon Steele

            Lol! Spot on!

          • HuhwytePill

            Seriously? No race/volk/whatever has more blood on its hands than Jews. The fact that you are so paranoid of people finding out about your behavior that you have to control every aspect of society to prevent them from even speaking about you as an identifiable group speaks to your guilt. Behavioral traits are heritable just like eye color. And with jews its insanely apparent. Think about it. It should worry you how your tribesmen behave towards people who want to be left alone. Your tribe’s racial hatred towards us has set the precedent that collective punishment is not only moral, but necessary. We didnt ask for any of this.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I’d just like to point out I’m not a Jew BTW.

            The Jews are and have always been an identifiable group. But I can’t agree they “have more blood on their hands…”, “feel a racial hatred…”

            IDK to what extent genes determine behaviour — but it can’t be as much that extreme antisemites believe. That the Jews are by nature so bad they must be exiled. Or worse.

          • HuhwytePill

            It doesnt require attribution of evil to recognize that one group’s ethnic interest is so counter to another that separation is required if there is to be anything close to peaceful interaction between said groups. The fact that even mentioning this gets such a vile reaction from jews and those who intercede on their behalf makes it clear that peaceful interaction is not a goal they are interested in despite constant claims of their dedication to that end.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Hello, huhwytePill, and thank you for your reply (I mean that). We’ll have to agree to disagree I suppose, but my understanding of the Jewish people and their intentions is very different to your own.

            Would it be possible for me to post an essay here explaining my own views on this matter (it would be academic in style, not trolling etc)?

          • Jon Steele

            (The Jews are not a race, BTW.)

            Not a “race” in the normal sense but a “race” nevertheless because of their unique ‘look’, proclivities and behavior.

            “One of the greatest errors that anyone can make with reference to the Jew Menace, is that the Jews are either a religion or a race. They are neither of these–but are a nation without domicile. They come from many diverse races, Oriental, Mongol, Negroid, East Baltic, Alpine and Armenoid (“Hither Asiatic”); but it is the latter which gives them what is regarded as a “Semitic” appearance, characterised by the fleshy nose.It is important to realise that the ancestors of nine-tenths of the present-day Jews were never in Palestine; this majority is descended from Asiatic and East European converts to the religion of Judah about 730 A.D., during the time of the Khazar Empire in the South of Russia. It is the instincts of the Asiatic races, particularly of the Armenoid Race, which gave the Jews a sadistic religion which appeals to them; whatever religion a Jew may profess, his instincts remain the same. This may be seen in the case of Bolshevism in Russia, where the Jewish Government professes no religion, but yet acts Jewishly, always destroying and never constructing.”

            — Arnold Leese

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Mmmmmmm-hmmmmmm… And how did German Jews fit into that retarded theory of yours?

          • thedaywalkr

            “But the fact remains you are promoting beliefs that have led to the horrible deaths of millions. We fight to stop that happening again.”

            What are you doing to stop Jews from putting yet another civilization into the gutter? If you stop this you will stop all the ills the West. Why not start there?

          • Lawrence_Bond

            There are many different theories about small groups of people, aliens, spiritual entities etc secretly running the world. I can’t disprove them, but there’s no proof for them either. Same goes for the Jews as candidates.

          • thedaywalkr

            This is where you are dead wrong and you fucking know it. Regardless, by who’s decree are we to allow anyone deemed undesirable into our country?

          • Lawrence_Bond

            The Kaiser’s men in the trenches didn’t think their German Jewish “undesirable”. Almost every male German Jew of military age served. They were much more German than Jewish. They loved their homeland Germany and were ready to die for her.

            Then people started talking like you again. Some of those veterans died in concentration camps.

          • thedaywalkr

            Again you must love M&M’s.

            “They were much more German than Jewish.”

            Really? How do you know?

            “They loved their homeland Germany and were ready to die for her.”

            Oh this is new. Are you saying NOT ALL X ARE LIKE THAT? This is a non sequitur and you fucking know it.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            They were German because they had adopted German as the language they spoke at home, because they were slowly moving out across the cities instead of grouping together, because there was conversion to Christianity, because they were raised in the country, because they wore German clothes, married gentile Germans… and because they flocked to join up and fight when WW1 broke out.

            It is not any non sequitor — it is historical fact, undisputed by an historian I know of. I was born and went to kindergarten here and Germans have told me these things.

          • Not All Jews™
            Bet you never heard that one before, Goy.

          • thedaywalkr

            Never. Ever. EVEREVEREVEREVER!

          • Joseph Martin

            Just realize that you’ll never get anywhere. This has been going on for years. 😆

          • thedaywalkr

            Truer words were never spoken.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            That’s true, Joe — too big of a gulf between the ideas…

            I was sorry to hear about your wife.

            PS: you may notice the featured comment on the gassing song thread on this blog. Let it not be said that Lawrence Bond wasn’t once the darling of the WN blogosphere… 🙂

          • Joseph Martin

            Great to hear from you, Larry. Thanks for the kind words. I trust you and yours are well.

            Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            And to you, Joe.

          • thedaywalkr

            Yeah I won’t be wasting any more time with this idiot. The idea that I have to prove something didn’t happen is hilarious. The burden of proof is on those that say the Holocaust happened. Telling me there is evidence while admitting there is no direct evidence is not a proof.

            Ok, maybe I will waste a little more time here. This is a good example of a real massacre with real proof. Funny which side was eventually proven to be the culprits and which side made a point to bring the evidence to the world:

            https : // en . wikipedia . org / wiki / Katyn_massacre

          • Joseph Martin

            You’ll never make headway with true believers but your efforts are appreciated.

            And yeah, in the middle of a war the Germans managed to conduct a proper investigation including neutral observers. The Allies never conducted a proper investigation even though they won the war and had unlimited time and resources.

            I just had fun debunking the Sobibor pile of sand …er …ashes. It took me about an hour to figure it out. 😝

          • thedaywalkr

            Saw that. Good stuff. Thank you.

          • What clued you in? Was it the fact that they built it in 1965?

          • Joseph Martin

            Hi KEK!

            If there really are human remains in that pile it’s kind of macabre that they must be pouring tons of herbicide on it. But that’s just an aside.

          • Do you think they’re spaying it with bug spray too?

          • Joseph Martin
          • That Shower Fresh smell.

          • proudzionist

            “I just had fun debunking the Sobibor pile of sand …er …ashes. It took me about an hour to figure it out”

            What took you an hour (because there’s very little going on over there from the neck up) is to find the Wikipedia site for Sobibor, a site containing some 8,000 words and multiple photos documenting the horrific genocidal actions which took place there, cut/pasted an 11-word unsourced caption to one of the photos, and then misrepresented THAT to deduce that all which exists there is “a pile of sand”

            Yeah, you sure showed us, didn’t you, Joseph? LMAO. You have even less respect for yourself than you have for Jews.

          • Hadding Scott

            The Second World War in Europe was instigated by the United States, and then prolonged through the insistence on “unconditional surrender.”

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Please note I’m talking about the First World War there, I should have been clearer.

          • 𝓦𝓱𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓗𝓮𝔂𝓢𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓸𝓼𝓼

            >But the fact remains you are promoting beliefs that have led to the horrible deaths of millions.

            He’s not promoting Judaism.

            “To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.” Sanhedrin 59a

            The true fact of the matter is that Jews and their golems have financed pretty much every major war in history for control of at least half of the world economy and their god refused to protect them once the goyim found out what they were up to.

            >We fight to stop that happening again.

            Then you should correct yourself so others don’t have to. It’s clear from the continued Jewish aggression, manipulation, collusion, and corruption that you have learned nothing from the alleged events of World War II. No one is more a Holocaust denier than he who persists in the very behaviors that led to it.

          • Christmas with Mike

            From which translation of the Talmud did you draw that “quotation”?

            Sanhedrin 59a in The William Davidson Talmud is an argument about whether gentiles could study Torah. They concluded that a gentile who studies Torah is considered like a High Priest.

        • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

          “Mommy, the bad man forgot my birfday and that I like red fire trucks. Make the bad man stop, Mommy!!!”

        • DerBuzenPuken
        • Baron von Aus

          People like Bond are bleeding hearts for the poor jew but they never mention the German civilians who perished and yes there were more of them than the jews.Konrad Adenauer first FRG Chancellor wrote in his memoirs “After 1945,between 13.5 and 17 million Germans were expelled from their homes across Eastern Europe,but only half of them ever arrived in Germany.Only 7.3 million are in the eastern zone and the three Western zones.Six million disapered from the face of the earth.They are expired,dead.”But of course we must only believe that jews perished.We have Japan who was a truly cruel killing machine and yet today they do not suffer the guilt complex that Germany does ? The jew will always be a victim.

        • Lawrence_Bond

          You and Augur are still hang ’em men — but I lean much more towards gas. But bigger facilities this time round; and no messing about with dual-purpose sites. An extermination camp should be just that, no factories with their pesky slaves writing it all down later.

      • Hadding Scott

        The actual doctrine of the NSDAP said that the Jews were a folk, not a race.

        “The Jews are a folk, not a race. They are often portrayed as a race in order to emphasize their distinctness. They are a folk completely alien to us Germans, with an entirely different racial composition. The chief racial components of Jewry are the Armenid (vorderasiatische) and Semitic (orientalische) races. In the course of their history they have mixed themselves with almost all other races of the world.” — Hansjoerg Maennel

        • Lawrence_Bond

          Thinking about what you said, Hadding, a case may well be made for a distinction between the terms race and volk as the [email protected] saw the Jews. But in terms of understanding [email protected] the difference is academic. The Jews are believed different by blood, by nature, by race… And nothing can alter that. They are inherently bad. It’s declared in their writings, speeches; enshrined in the laws they enacted… and the policies they implemented.

          Do you know who Edith Stein was, my avatar? A Jew, she converted to Catholicism and became a nun. But to the [email protected] she was still and could only ever be Jewish. So they murdered her.

          • Hadding Scott

            Are you one of those Catholic retards who wants a slice of that good Holohoax victimhood?

            The problem with your Edith Stein myth is that she is supposed to have been gassed at Auschwitz, and the gas-chamber stories at Auschwitz have all been debunked.

            I don’t know where the Vatican got this story, but they made themselves look foolish.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            No: you simply refuse the overwhelming evidence about the gas Chambers at Auschwitz.

            I’ll put up an OP soon based on the two Edith Stein biographies I have. Information about her fate doesn’t stem from the Vatican.

          • Hadding Scott

            The gassing story as described is simply impossible. You can’t dump Zyklon-B on a cold floor and expect it to be finished outgassing in a few minutes. It’s a fumigating agent designed to be used over the course of many hours. The recommended airing-out period alone is 10 hours.

            And then there are other impossible details. Just recently they are making hoopla about an account of gassing from Marcel Nadjari, who claimed to have been in a Sonderkommando attending Krema III. Problem is, he says that they forced 3000 people into a room of only 2260 square feet, and that a thousand or more tons of crushed bone were dumped into the River Vistula without leaving a trace. It’s just nonsense.

            You believe that shit?

            I will be interested knowing, as I said, WHERE the Vatican got that story about Edith Stein, but don’t imagine that citing a source is the same as proving that she was gassed. You will just be identifying the liar for me.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Are you aware of the fact that Zyklon B is poisonous to people?

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I know the Denier claims inside out.

            Her biographies give full details of the sources of their claims.

            It’s folly to try to reason with you and I shall leave you with your opinions.

          • Hadding Scott

            Okay so you’ve decided that you’re not going to post the information about who invented the Edith Stein gassing story after all.

            And you’re basically running away at this point, because the problem of the time that Zyklon-B takes to outgas is insurmountable. You cannot reconcile that with the claim that a gassing was finished in half an hour.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            “Okay so you’ve decided that you’re not going to post the information about who invented the Edith Stein gassing story after all.”

            I posted examples from the books I have and you dismissed my comment.

            “And you’re basically running away at this point, because the problem of the time that Zyklon-B takes to outgas is insurmountable. You cannot reconcile that with the claim that a gassing was finished in half an hour.”

            Not insurmountable — just producing endless debate. Some say the alleged chambers couldn’t have worked, others they did, and on and on. I say, They must have worked.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I did answer your [email protected] and [email protected] question at length but it’s pending.

          • Hadding Scott

            I don’t care about your longwinded blather.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Up yours, jerkoff, he’s a nice guy who is waaaaay more patient and kind than subhuman untermensches like you deserve.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            No: you don’t care about the truth. You can tell that I’ve studied that subject, but all you can do is be dismissive.

          • Hadding Scott

            You sanctimonious ass. You started by asserting that Hitler regarded the Jews as a race. You claimed to have read everything by Hitler up to 1935. Maybe Hitler speaking loosely at some time said that the Jews were a race, but this was not the position of the NSDAP, which is what you were getting at.

            I posted a quote from an original document of the NSDAP. Politische Fibel by Hansjoerg Maennel. This was a booklet to assist instructors training new members of the party. It’s NSDAP orthodoxy, and it says that Jews are a folk, not a race, and that they are a mixture of races.

            Hitler told Max Planck that his problem with the Jews was that they were all Communists. In the 1930s that was very largely true. The Jews were clearly a menace to the German state, whether you want to explain it through racial psychology or some social explanation.

            I don’t need more information about that from YOU. I know more about it than I said, and if I want even more information, I know where to get it.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            There are always a few exceptions, Hadding. They don’t prove the rule.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            “You sanctimonious ass”

            Insult away — it’s all meaningless words to me now. Every day for two years now I’ve talked to revisionists and seen their exchanges with others. It always follows this pattern, ending up with you shouting personal abuse.

            It is partly that reaction that has convinced me that, despite your very sanctimonious and noble declarations, none of you are looking for any truth.

            I know you people, Hadding. I know what you are.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            When I meet people who are genuinely knowledgeable and expert and interested in this field they never react like you. They always welcome the chance to share their knowledge, but not dogmatically, and they’re always interested in what I have learned and my opinions of works they can see I have studied.

            You just shout in people’s faces.

            You have beliefs. Beliefs you need. You can’t bear to have them questioned and will turn on anyone who presumes to do so.

            Again, it’s that sort of behaviour that persuaded me the Holocaust revisionists are deniers.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Here’s more from that book:

            “From this recognition result these demands: expulsion of the racial alien and preservation of the purity of our race. Through the Nuremberg Laws (the Blood Protection Law and the Reich Citizenship Law of September 15, 1935) mixture of the German folk with racially alien Jewry is therefore finally halted.”

            It’s consistent with all the other sources. The [email protected] believed the Jews were a race. An evil one.

            I’m gonna read the book cover to cover in German. And if it doesn’t say what you claim, please acknowledge that.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Did they debunk the thousands of empty cans of Zyklon B at Auschwitz also?

          • Hadding Scott

            No, the empty Zyklon-B cans are solid evidence that millions of insects (lice, fleas, bedbugs, etc.) died. You are right.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            Those would be some of the nicknames that the Nuzis had for the Jews, yes.

        • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

          Are you seriously saying that you’ve never seen a Jew with white skin?

        • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

          Oh, well, if some guy I’ve never heard of before said it then it MUST be true.
          XD

      • Paul Rain

        It’s the view of all rational people.

    • Stan

      He looked like a little dark featured Jew … ARYAN >> LMAO

      • thedaywalkr

        Yeah all except his piercing blue eyes. The joke’s on you fool.

        • Stan

          BLUE? .. every color picture I saw of him and his eyes were the same color as Kim Jung Un’s
          Please post a blue eyes Hitler picture …

          • thedaywalkr

            Srsly dude you don’t understand that EVERYTHING YOU’VE EVER SEEN is through the lens of a Jew. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/01125014458131deb6dd668af60b59c0a5a15a96d4963773498e1771e802f363.jpg

          • Stan

            BROWN …. Hitler was a Jew and you fell for his crap just like everyone fell of that Jew Jesus …
            You are the fool for the Jews … wake up and defend your cultural heritage ! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3213f71286db430a3ce7c354650b6ae384a4bc3e992db7ff02d8bdfcf2b26df9.png

          • thedaywalkr

            Now I am certain you’re a fucking Kike! Bye bye Kike!

          • Stan

            Actually I am whiter than Hitler .. but that’s not saying much because he was half JEW !

          • thedaywalkr

            And you’re all Jew and half a Faggot. Worse in anyone’s book. You come here because deep down inside you know this. You come here to try to shed the shame you’ve caused yourself and family by trying to turn reality upside-down. No matter how hard you try, you will still be a Kike and a fucking Faggot. Normalization will always avoid you and your kind, bitch.

          • Stan

            You are a filthy Jew .. wanting people to follow half jew Hitler and full jew Jesus … and you call me a kike ?
            I digress sir, you are a half breed. I bet your grandpa banged Mexicans and you mom banged a half Mexican.
            I am white… I am a warrior for the white race. You are a nancypants race trader with a picture of half jew Hitler on your wall.

          • thedaywalkr

            “Although Adolf Hitler claimed the Germans were of a superior Aryan race of white, tall, blonde hair, blue-eyed individuals, he himself was of modest height, blue-eyed, and brown-haired. Traudl Junge, his last secretary often told in interviews, that people were amazed about Hitler’s blue eyes. Those who met Hitler, after the War often refer, in their reminiscences, to his remarkable pale, clear blue eyes, which many state, unequivocally, had a distinctly hypnotic quality.”

            Wake up faggot!

          • Stan
          • thedaywalkr

            That’s because you’re a fucking fool.

          • Stan

            You are the one that does not know brown from blue…. like duhhhhh

          • thedaywalkr
          • Stan
          • thedaywalkr

            Right….wrong.

          • thedaywalkr

            Shit you got me. Now what will I do? Oh yeah, you’re here to chase your own shadow and drag your weepy wet pussy around hoping someone steps on it. Having fun yet?

          • thedaywalkr

            I would have preferred if she didn’t have that stupid fucking dress on. But thanks fag.

          • Stan

            me too.

    • El Vergudo
  • thedaywalkr

    Oh and I will just leave this right here. Elle’s faux crush bleeds through every time she interacts with Chris:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/db65c7043f99a914919cc28a2ae892273b2ee14e7f966ad666f8ab94e0ed8cc5.jpg

    • ass hole

      hahahahaha

  • thedaywalkr

    Chris you should get yourself a Focusrite Audio interface so you can see right on the input that you are clipping. Just saying.

  • thedaywalkr

    Dude this News Hole is so stupid and so full of shit. Seriously she’s half a fucking retard.

    No Ms. Reeve we don’t take Gas The Kike’s Race War Now seriously. We say it to fucking trigger Kikes and retards like you. It’s hilarious how clueless and idiotic you are. You’re hopeless. Please give up journalism, you’re terrible at it.

  • A more pertinent question is, how many dicks and at what speed were they driven up your butthole in jail?

  • Robert Browning

    Why are you still talking to her?? WTF is wrong with you??

    • thedaywalkr

      He and Mike Enoch are recording all of their conversations with journalists. While it makes perfect sense for the default behavior of any of us on the AltRight to not talk to any of these sneaky, slimey, journolists (yes look that term up if you want to really go for a (((ride))) down memory lane), Chris and Mike are good enough at being able to handle their own and not get painted into (((bullshit))) corners. I thought Chris did quite well in this interview. You can hear in his voice that he has reached his fucking limit dealing with journalist lies and was certain to point that out each time this bitch tried to sneak one in.

  • curri

    A Fetal Alcohol Syndrome victim is the “journalist.”

  • Stan
  • Lawrence_Bond

    It’s quite true that there have always been antisemites and quite a few were famous people. Lots of people have believed lots of things.

    • thedaywalkr

      My God, your unwillingness to see the common denominator is stunning. If you aren’t Jewish someone should give you a big Yellow Star of David badge and make you an honorary Kike.

      • Lawrence_Bond

        I tell you what, if you can get Christopher to allow it and he gives me his word it won’t be edited, I’ll write an essay about what I believe about the Jews and why and post it here; you can judge it in its merits. Sound fair?

        • thedaywalkr

          Naw. I think my work is done here.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Not until you’ve produced evidence those Jews sent to Treblinka were alive elsewhere later, or acknowledged the Holocaust happened pretty much as most historians say.

          • Hadding Scott

            That is a presumption of guilt. Essentially: PROVE THAT IT WASN’T MURDER!

            It’s a mark of the progress of Holocaust Revisionism, that the Holohoaxsters are reduced to this kind of argument. They used to claim to have all kinds of positive evidence, like films of gassed people, and the Dachau gas-chamber, and shrunken heads, and bars of soap, and of course lampshades. But that was all fake.

            The Auschwitz gas-chambers as of 1988 were also thoroughly debunked, which is why Larry here runs away from the subject.

            So where did the Jews go? Who knows! They could have gone to many different places. The point is, there is no good reason to presume that they were gassed, and you can’t demonstrate that even one was gassed.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I ran from nothing, Hadding. I was approached by revisionists and decided to look into what they’d told me. I’d read some of David Irving’s books but had hardly ever thought or spoken about all this. It went from there, but I drew my own conclusions. I’d be quite happy to describe times when my initial ideas proved untrue and I changed my opinions.

          • Hadding Scott

            David Irving is a nobody in Holocaust Revisionism. All the work was done by people other than Irving.

            You try to show that you know something and you end up showing that you don’t.

          • I and others have been arguing with this jew for two long, brutal years. All he does is demand irrefutable evidence while failing to provide any of his own. He goes to holocaust museums and believes whatever jews tell him to believe, and figures that because he believes, you have no choice but to believe as well. You’re wasting time and energy talking to him. His new strategy is to follow pro-White posters around with his little gang of jews, and troll wherever we post. He’ll badger you to no end about his beloved holohoax, if you let him. I would advise avoiding further conversation with him. At this point, I’ve decided he deserves nothing more than ridicule.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            No: I mentioned him when I talked about the time I knew little.

            From the Fibel:

            “The folk is a community of blood and destiny. Shared ancestry is the most important characteristic.”

            Have you really read the book and studied openly NS beliefs?

            Let’s agree to disagree and I’ll leave you in peace from now on. Thank you for your time (meant sincerely).

          • thedaywalkr

            Exactly, David Irving isn’t even a Holocaust Revisionist at all. Quite the contrary in fact.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            “So where did the Jews go? Who knows! They could have gone to many different places. The point is, there is no good reason to presume that they were gassed, and you can’t demonstrate that even one was gassed.”

            “Who knows where they went” is not a valid answer. Over a million people disappearing under those circumstances is conclusive. We have comprehensive records covering the arrival, stay and departure of people taken to the genuine transit camps.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            “The Auschwitz gas-chambers as of 1988 were also thoroughly debunked, which is why Larry here runs away from the subject.”

            You constantly make assumptions about my motives. I will now tell you what they actually were.

            Auschwitz is important, of course — but I saw the debates over it were always inconclusive. I decided to focus on one part of the vast field, the ovens. But again it was just claim and counter-claim… endless. I wanted something more clear cut.

            It was about that time I started visiting the new deportation memorial centre in Düsseldorf and following what happened to individual Jews from places I visited in the Ruhr area. There was much less dispute about the the transports and my interest grew from there.

            It took me by logical progression to Treblinka. I make no claim to have done any original research or be any kind of expert — but I believe I the utter disappearance of the people sent there is the deciding argument.

            I’m happy to be disproved. If someone has good evidence some of those Jews were alive later I’ll admit I was wrong and reconsider.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Putting debate aside for a moment, I just like to assure you I’m looking at this subject as fairly as I can.

            Lots of nonsense about soap and goodness knows what was talked, it’s quite true. And it shouldn’t’ve been. And I too was taken in by that fantasist who went round telling everyone he met his wife when she passed him bread through the wire.

            But those are the exceptions, they really are.

            I’m not being sanctimonious, big headed etc and I really am not an historian or expert… and I haven’t read them all… but the specialist libraries like the one in Cologne have hundreds of eyewitness testimonies written just after the war. Many are long out of print and forgotten by most. But they’re simple and similar. No one’s jumping from fences onto trains a hundred meters away or doing anything with diamonds…

          • thedaywalkr

            Since this comment seems to sit in a holding pattern:

            Yeah I won’t be wasting any more time with this idiot. The idea that I have to prove something didn’t happen is hilarious. The burden of proof is on those that say the Holocaust happened. Telling me there is evidence while admitting there is no direct evidence is not a proof.

            Ok, maybe I will waste a little more time here. This is a good example of a real massacre with real proof. Funny which side was eventually proven to be the culprits and which side made a point to bring the evidence to the world:

            https : // en . wikipedia . org / wiki / Katyn_massacre

          • If I had a shekel for every hour I’ve wasted on this jew…

        • Hadding Scott

          Nobody wants to read your boring normie opinions.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            “Nobody wants to read your boring normie opinions”

            Fair enough. But in that case revisionists should keep their opinions to themselves and not try to spread them as you do.

            We, our society, is quite happy to forget this whole debate immediately and forever.

  • Robert Gough

    Thanks for this one. And the quote, had to look into a few people in the introduction that Hitler was honoring.

    Society has gone so far away from the values men once held. Honor, integrity. etc…

  • Hadding Scott

    That’s not a valid response.

    • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

      I gave you a huge list of names. How is that not “valid”?

      • Hadding Scott

        It’s not a valid response because I asked for a name of a VERIFIED VICTIM OF A NAZI GAS-CHAMBER. What makes you think that any name on that list is verified? Those are just names of people whose whereabouts were not known after the war, and who were consequently presumed gassed. Seriously, that’s how it works. It’s not unusual for people whose names are on those lists to turn up alive.

        So, you still haven’t given a name of a verifiably gassed Jew.

        • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

          How would YOU verify any of those names?

          • Hadding Scott

            The strongest form of verification would be a professional examination of the physical remains.

            Another way would be a contemporary German record indicating that a person has been gassed, but this is only compelling if the record can be proven authentic, and if it comes from somebody who would have been in a position to know this (not somebody repeating a rumor).

            Statements of “witnesses” made after the war have very little credibility, because of all the pressures and motives involved at that time.

            Because the first two forms of evidence are lacking, the crux of the Holohoax question becomes whether one believes the “witnesses.” There is plenty of reason not to believe them. Paul Rassinier was writing that already in the late 1940s.

          • Bible Yoda ✓ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ

            If you will read your statement carefully you will notice that you never actually answered my question.

        • proudzionist

          “While the Nazis tried to cover up their crimes by destroying the evidence of gas chambers and the other killing apparatus, blowing up the chambers and crematoria at Auschwitz-Bikenau for example, there is still solid evidence that corroborates the eye-witness accounts. Careful examination of the ruins of the Crematoria I and II gas chambers at Auschwitz and comparison with photographs and descriptions from witnesses confirms the existence of the holes in the roofs of the chambers by which the Zyklon B gas pellets were introduced. Holocaust deniers claim these holes don’t exist and that these structures were not gas chambers, but examination of the ruins shows that the holes in question were in place before the attempted demoliton of the chambers and were not the result of that action.

          While Auschwitz is the best known of the death camps, this is because it was also a large slave labour camp, so there are more survivors from it. The dedicated death camps of Aktion Reinhard represented the most deadly part of the Nazi’s mass murder operations and are far less known largely because virtually everyone who entered these camps – Belzec, Chemlno, Sobibor and Treblinka – were gassed or shot. Holocaust deniers try to pretend these camps were simply “transit camps”, but testimony from guards, Nazis, a few surviving prisoners and locals all prove that this is nonsense.

          Between 2010 and 2012 a British archaeological team uncovered extensive evidence that the Treblinka camp was indeed a mass murder centre. Ground penetrating radar detected three huge mass graves on the site, one of which is 26m long, 17m wide and at least 4m deep. Using aerial photos from the 1940s, GPS technology and modern remote sensing equipment, the archaeologists were also able to detect the brick remains of the gas chambers, which the Nazis had dismantled when they abandoned the site. Bone fragments and ash deposits on the site also clearly indicate the disposal of thousands of corpses at Treblinka, as attested by all witnesses.

          Secondly, we have forensic evidence that clearly demonstrates that cynide gas was used in the gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau. Following claims by amateur hobbyist Fred Leuchter, which were touted by Holocaust deniers David Irving and Ernst Zundel as “proof” no Zyklon B was used to gas people at Auschwitz, the Institute for Forensic Research (IFRC) in Kraków undertook forensic examinations of the relevant areas of the five crematoria. After factoring in elements that Leuchter had not calculated for, the IFRC concluded that, in fact, there were expected traces of cyanide gas in all relevant areas and that this was not due to them having been fumigated against a typhus outbreak.

          The evidence of the Holocaust and of the Nazi’s use of gas chambers to murder thousands of people is clear. This is not just a confluence of masses of eye-witness accounts, admissions by Nazis and documentary evidence but also archaeological and forensic evidence as well. The case is closed, at least for any rational, objective person.”

          www [dot] quora [dot] com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps

          You and your kind will NEVER be able to convince a single person (not even YOURSELVES) that that holocaust was anything other than what is documented within history books. There is NOTHING in the realm of the study of history that has been so thoroughly studied, documented and verified as the holocaust, and this is true for a multitude of reasons, not the least of which are…

          1. The Germans themselves documented, very methodically, in film and writing, their extermination of the Jews.

          2. Surviving German officers and Jewish holocaust survivors (including my own parents/grandparents) corroborated the claims that are now part of documented history.

          3. Overwhelming physical evidence of the holocaust remains preserved, just because evil goons like you were expected to “deny” that the holocaust ever happened. Visit the memorials at the concentration camps of Sobibor and Majdanek (as I and millions of others have), and you can see the mountains of ashes and bone fragments that have been preserved.

          You can “DENY” all you want, but even YOU can never talk yourselves into believing the nonsense that you spew. So, just know that your denials fall upon deaf ears.

          • proudzionist

            Nice try, putz. You want to see mountains of ashes, do you? Why don’t take your sorry ass to Poland, and visit the sites for yourself? Too much of a coward? Too afraid you’ll no longer be comfortable ‘denying’ what you and everyone else know to be true?

            Two Monuments at the entrance, erected in 1965

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b262daaba4172d4ec7a66274dd7117059dfaad1696ae27f070af771f80b8bb55.jpg

            Photo Credit: Alan Collins

            Monument at the Entrance to former camp

            Photo Credit: Alan Collins

            The red stone sculpture shown in the photos above represents a woman, looking up at the sky, holding a small child in her arms. In the background can be seen the huge mound of ashes that is located in the former Camp III. These are the ashes of the Jews who were gassed and burned at Sobibor.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5851399f3db38af5bd1ddb66591159438d475ff59f6f2fdcae7ffa89c32c8406.jpg

            Sobibor Monument

            Photo Credit: Alan Collins

            The photo above shows a huge mound of ashes and bone fragments surrounded by a stone wall. In front of the wall is a glass display case which contains a small amount of ashes and bone. There is also a display of ashes and bone fragments in the Museum at Sobibor.

          • Please post a picture of a bone fragment mountain, jew.

          • proudzionist

            I’ve already done so, for Sobibor. You want to see the one at Majdenek too?

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/81bd22cc77b42015f4c5fc06755fe47f4f3a3bc82ffa723b1289586ae695b9f8.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9bf262c0eca03a81f41325763176b85f50a77da2b0680a15e2d57c6dbcc8a34d.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ca8ca248968d919a0fd5dd17c887f71742d9e2727d30a094043a6281476c89da.png

            Why don’t you get up off your sorry, lazy, anti-Semitic behind, and head over the Poland (as I and many millions have done). You can see the mountains of bone fragments and ashes with your own lying eyes. Too much of a coward, aren’t you?

          • proudzionist

            Childish memes, the only things left after an idiot has run completely out of ammunition.

            Your white flag of surrender is duly acknowledged.

          • proudzionist

            Confirmation received.

          • proudzionist

            I’ve already told you that your white flag of surrender has been recognized. Can’t you see I’ve stopped firing at you? If you’d like to resume fighting, I’d suggest you reload some ammo. Continued posting of memes just makes you and your holocaust-denying pranksters look like the idiots that you are.

          • You never answered my question about where you keep the shrunken heads of all your dead relatives. I’m truly curious about you people. Do you keep them on the mantle as a constant reminder, or is that considered “over the top”? Do you use soap, or is that somehow considered to be like cannibalism or something?

          • Hadding Scott

            Now that’s NOT NICE!

          • Hadding Scott

            I can’t tell that that is a mountain composed of thousands of tons of Jewish bone-fragments just from a photograph. Can you direct us to an authoritative writeup on this?

          • proudzionist

            Better yet. Get your sorry behind on a plane to Poland, where you can view these ashes and bone fragments to your heart”s delight? Too much of a coward, aren’t you? Too scared it would destroy your whole narrative, aren’t you? As long as you can play deaf, dumb and blind, the lying comes easily, doesn’t it?

          • Hadding Scott

            You are delusional. I don’t share your superstitions. The shoes and the eyeglasses and the morgue that the Jews claim was a gas-chamber — these things don’t mean to me what they mean to you. To me they are symbols of Jewish lunacy.

            Why should I be terrified of that?

          • proudzionist

            ” these things don’t mean to me what they mean to you.”

            The TRUTH doesn’t mean to you what it means to everyone else. You, my holocaust-denying (yet holocaust-believing) friend, are in a miniscule category of folks who live in the dark corners of the internet, precisely because you are too embarrassed to voice such absurd assertions in public. While there are a handful of “professional” holocaust deniers (who work in the public arena, and ALSO don’t believe a word of what they say), at least they do what they do for financial gain. YOU cowards, on the other hand, do what you do for no other reason than to incite silly internet fights. Basically, you’re just a laughable troll.

            “Why should I be terrified of that?”

            Who ever said you should be terrified of anything? Frankly, if there’s anything that would/should terrify you, it would be awakening one day to the realization of what a fool you’ve made of yourself. As I’ve said many times before, I don not believe there is a single person alive who doesn’t “believe” the holocaust happened precisely like history books show it happened. Denying what you know to be true, for no other reason than as an endeavor to upset Jews, is a child’s game.

          • Hadding Scott

            Unlike you, I don’t have the power of looking at pairs of shoes and intuiting facts about the wearers. It seems to be a special faculty of the Jews, to know these things without investigation.

            We non-Jews have even considered it a mark of erudition, not to jump to such conclusions. That’s how backward we are compared to the Jews.

            So, please, pity me for my limited goy faculties.

          • proudzionist

            “Unlike you, I don’t have the power of looking at pairs of shoes and intuiting facts about the wearers, especially about their fate.”

            Of course you don’t. That’s why there have been 72 years of intensive investigation, documentation, verbal/written/photographic testimony, historical analysis, forensic analysis, eyewitness testimony, concentration camp site preservations, artifact preservation, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., ALL OF WHICH YOU SUMMARILY DISMISS IN FAVOR OF STATING ‘I DON’T CARE ABOUT ANY OF IT; I STILL DENY IT EVER HAPPENED’.

            “We non-Jews have even considered it a mark of erudition, not to jump to such conclusions.”

            You non-Jews? What are talking about? The “non-Jew” Germans and Poles, including those who hid many Jews so as to save their lives, have provided the lion’s share of testimony, evidence and documentation for the holocaust (since most of Europe’s Jews were/are dead, and could not speak for themselves).

            “So, please, pity me for my limited goy faculties.”

            I pity you for being a waste of life, much as I would pity any other Jew or Goy who wasted his/her life.

          • Hadding Scott

            The “eyewitness testimony” that supports stories of gassing is scant, and what there is of it is not credible. What you’re talking about is just storytelling.

            The first “forensic analysis” of the alleged gas-chambers ever published was done by Fred Leuchter, so far as I know.

          • proudzionist

            “The “eyewitness testimony” that supports stories of gassing is scant”

            Nonsense. The eyewitness testimony of gassing is VAST, and includes testimony from surviving camp prisoners and camp personnel. Even more VAST are the testimonies, photos, and documents from multitudinous German government officials and surviving physical evidence.

            “The first “forensic analysis” of the alleged gas-chambers ever published was done by Fred Leuchter, so far as I know.”

            That because what you “know” is very little.Leuchter’s work is often presented by Holocaust deniers as scientifically-based evidence for Holocaust denial, despite his research methods and findings having been widely discredited on both scientific and historical grounds.

          • Hadding Scott

            You’re lying. There are abundant survivors of concentration camps, but very few that claim firsthand knowledge of gassing.

            That’s why there is so much hoopla recently about Marcel Nadjari’s 13-page letter allegedly describing gassing at Birkenau. If there were abundant accounts it would not be so important.

            The problem is, Nadjari’s account, like the other handful of accounts, lacks credibility. You can’t put 3000 people into a room of only 2260 square feet, and you can’t cremate corpses just by igniting their own fat, and you can’t dump thousands of tons of bone into a river without leaving a trace. It’s nonsense.

          • proudzionist

            ” There are abundant survivors of concentration camps, but very few that claim firsthand knowledge of gassing.”

            Really? And who told you this? Is this just something you say, such as “The holocaust never happened”, without a shred of evidence to support your claim?

            Look, Mr. Scott, your M.O. as a holocaust denier (not to be confused with some mythical person who actually believes it never happened) is to merely deny, challenge everyone to provide “evidence” of the holocaust, and then dismiss all such evidence on the grounds of ‘It was written by Jews, and they’re liars’, ‘It was written by Germans, whose testimonies were forced by torture’, ‘It didn’t happen because it was not physically possible’, etc., etc. I realize that you think “denial’ is somehow working for you, but it just makes you look like a moron, given the vast amounts of data, testimony, photos, and existing/preserved physical evidence. I can deny that birds fly because it’s an impossibility…they’re heavier than air. That doesn’t mean I’d actually believe it. You could bring the world’s leading experts in ornithology to provide testimony; you could bring experts in wing mechanics to provide explanations of flight; you could provide photos/videos of birds flying; and it would make no difference because all I’d have to do is say ‘Nope, don’t believe it. It simply cannot happen’. THAT, my friend, is what YOU and your kind do. You never have, and never will, convince a single individual to disbelieve in the occurrence of the holocaust. Why would you expect to when even you do not disbelieve it? You just get your juvenile kicks by compelling people to provide all sorts of evidence, and then summarily dismiss it without any substantive, scientific, or credible refutation.

            “You can’t put 3000 people into a room of only 2260 square feet, and you can’t cremate corpses just by igniting their own fat, and you can’t dump thousands of tons of bone into a river without leaving a trace.”

            Please provide evidence that any such claims have been made, and please provide evidence that such claims would be physically impossible. Time for YOU to provide some backing for your nonsense, rather than to have us do all the work while you sit back and state “Nope”, “Nope”, “Couldn’t have happened”, “Never happened”, “Nope”, “It’s ridiculous”, etc.

          • Jon Steele

            The Laws of Physics come to an abrupt stop once one enters into a “gas chamber.” Lol.

          • Jon Steele

            “Nonsense. The eyewitness testimony of gassing is VAST, and includes testimony from surviving camp prisoners and camp personnel.”

            “Gassings” of LICE nothing more.

          • You got me researching. I’m now starting to believe that sobibor may not have even really been a camp. Seems nobody had even heard of it before 1987.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/98b4ba0775e956ecab4fc05c3168e4e7f54892a9b87e9b5e5949f60cb41f73e3.png

            Of course jews made up stories with numbers. And you wonder why no one ever believes you people. Ever hear the story about the boy who cried wolf?

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aa63fa80b0874ca0724be458828b8b2faadcac126294676b1ac0c446c03e756f.png

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Tell that to the researchers at Westenbork, the camp from where the Dutch Jews were transported ro Sobibor.

            We have tens of thousands of documents proving the camp existed.

            You are still refusing to address the conclusive point.

            But you never will, so I will leave you on your own online sites.

          • I already told you, Larry. Nobody cares about your dead jews. In fact, I’m exactly six million times more interested in the bottle of beer I’m drinking right now than any dead jew. Again, my parents weren’t even born yet when you say your precious holohoax happened. Why would I give even the slightest fúck about it?

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ebff1f9aefa581487b75a5a1fb460b53fdcbd1f2a5d3a23d7cc31ff8b0de0020.png

          • Lawrence_Bond

            We’re going round and round, KEK — and if I persist you tell me you want me to die.

            I will leave you in peace after this, I promise.

            I believe the Holocaust matters because the words that caused it are being spoken again today.

            That’s it. I wish you well.

          • Hadding Scott

            Oy veh! Anudda Holocawst! Oy veh!

          • proudzionist

            You imbecile! The presence of Sobibor was widely public knowledge in the 1950’s (if not before), and the first monument to Sobibór victims was erected on the historic site in 1965.

            E.S.R. (2013). “Museum of the Former Sobibór Death Camp”. Information Portal to European Sites of Remembrance. Gedenkstattenportal zu Orten der Erinnerung in Europa.

            You, sir, are an idiot, wrapped in a moron! Thank God the enemies of the Jews today are as dumb as you. Ironically, your hero, the “fuhrer” had no more tolerance for the genetically stupid, and mentally ill, than he had for Jews or Gypsies, so YOU would have shared the gas chambers with us Jews.

          • proudzionist

            Childish memes, the only things left after an idiot has run completely out of ammunition.

            Your white flag of surrender is duly acknowledged

          • DerBuzenPuken

            LMAO!

          • Paul Rain

            Lol, come on, jew faggot. Noone actually believes your lies.

          • Jon Steele

            Hitler was right. That’s all I have to say to you, you vile Jewish supremacist, Zionist jerk-off.

          • Joseph Martin

            Hi there Proud Zionist. Long time no see.

            I was impressed by the photo of Sobibor but there was something about it that didn’t make sense. I am a rustic with considerable experience disposing of ashes (wood, not human). In my experience a pile of ashes disappears quickly. It gets washed and blown away. So how did the mound of ash at sobibor survive for decades?

            After spending about an hour I discovered that the pile is ash mixed with sand. No mention of the ratio but I’m guessing 99.9 parts sand to 0.1 parts ash of dubious origin.

            If the Holocaust narrative promoters would stop pulling publicity stunts like trying to pass off a pile of sand as a pile of ashes they’d have more credibility.

            Thanks and Happy Holidays! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1448c1738184e473157c5a5ddd1d3d7581732e4fd6cd2f89774a1c0141fd2fde.jpg

          • proudzionist

            “I am a rustic with considerable experience disposing of ashes (wood, not human)”

            Rustic: NOUN – “an unsophisticated country person”. Nice.

            Thanks for acknowledging that you have no experience (or knowledge) regarding human “ashes”, which actually contain very little “ash”, and are mostly bone fragments. Of course, if you’d ever visited these memorials containing said “ashes”, and viewed them from 6 inches away, you’d know this. But, hey, all you “rustics” really need is a simple google search, right? Did you bother reading the text of the Wikipedia page from which you cut/pasted the photo? Here, let me help you…

            “Up to 200,000 people were murdered at Sobibór[4] and possibly more. At the postwar trial against the former SS personnel of Sobibór, held in Hagen two decades into the Cold War, Professor Wolfgang Scheffler estimated the number of murdered Jews totalled a minimum of 250,000….oday, the site is occupied by the Sobibór Museum, which displays a pyramid of ashes and crushed bones of the victims, collected from the cremation pits.”

            ” In my experience a pile of ashes disappears quickly. It gets washed and blown away. So how did the mound of ash at sobibor survive for decades?”

            I see. Of course, you acknowledged having had NO experience with human ashes, most of which are bony fragments, right? And I presume you also have no knowledge regarding the stability of such mounds of ashes, when surrounded by walls and covered over the top, so as to protect the mound from the elements of rain and wind. Am I right?

            “After spending about an hour I discovered that the pile is ash mixed with sand. No mention of the ratio but I’m guessing 99.9 parts sand to 0.1 parts ash of dubious origin.”

            You “discovered” nothing. You “found” an unsourced Wikipedia entry in the form of a caption for a photo. You’ve never been to the site, have you? I have. You are, however, correct about your “guessing”. Indeed, guessing is about as scientific as holocaust deniers like you ever get.

            “If the Holocaust narrative promoters would stop pulling publicity stunts like trying to pass off a pile of sand as a pile of ashes they’d have more credibility.”

            Oh, I see. So the pile just went from “ash mixed with sand” to “99.9 parts sand to 0.1 parts ash of dubious origin” to “a pile of sand”. I’d say you’ve lost all credibility with this comment of yours, but that would erroneously assume that you’d have any credibility to begin with.

            Happy holocaust-denying.

          • Joseph Martin

            I never claimed to be fast. I’m just stealing a few minutes at work and phone posting 😆

            I was afraid this would
            upset you. I really haven’t posted much revisionist stuff lately because it seems to make people agitated. I’m not out to hurt anyone’s feelings.

            You are right that a proper crematory oven reduces the body to bone fragments. But my understanding is that the bodies at Sobibor were burned in the open over wood fires. So these remains would have mixed with large volumes of wood ash, no? Is it your position that at some later date the bone fragments were seperated out from the wood ash and mixed with sand to make the exhibited mound? When did that happen and why? What happened to the rabbinic prohibition against disintering human remains? Isn’t it far more likely that they just dumped a bunch of sand/gravel and claimed that there were human remains in there?

            I do not plan to visit Poland. If I can’t learn something online I’m probably not going to learn it.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Hello, Joe. It was meeting you that got me involved in all this, and ironically you that put me on to what I believe is the deciding evidence in this debate.

            The sort of things you’re discussing with pz always go back and forth inconclusively and I gave up looking into them for that reason.

            You claimed Treblinka was a transit camp at about the same time they opened a new centre in Düsseldorf dealing with the transports. I became interested in that side of the field.

            I tracked most of the Judentransporte from collection of the Jews to their destination. Not original research by any means, but enough to give clear understanding of how the system worked.

            The genuine transit camps, like Theresienstadt and Westerbork, become immediately obvious. People arriving are checked off against lists, there is personal and official evidence of their lives at the camp, and then those same names appear on different transports going to different places.

            But with Treblinka and the other Bug River camps it is utterly different. I have not been able to find any document referred to anywhere that shows anyone sent to those camps being sent elsewhere and being alive later.

            They vanish.

            You will always believe what you do, but after turning this issue over in my mind constantly and studying it for two years, believe the total disappearance of those people one of the best proofs they must have been murdered as the documents and eyewitnesses testify to.

          • Joseph Martin

            Thanks, Larry. I appreciate all the effort you put into this. Keep up the good work.

            Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Don’t wanna talk about it, huh? Well, let’s talk about silence. Augur Mayson has stated his “life’s mission is to wipe the Jew from the earth’s face” and other posters around you openly call for the entire Jewish population of the world to be deported to Siberia or another place of permanent exile. By not speaking out against that you are condoning it. At the very least.

          • Joseph Martin

            Hey Larry.

            What did you want to talk about? I’m not as engaged as I used to be although my opinions are essentially the same.

            I’m not convinced enough about anything to try converting anyone. Skepticism is my default position on all official narratives (US Civil War, WWI, WWII, 9/11, etc).

            I think debate is always good and fun as long as it’s done respectfully. Every viewpoint is worth defending and deserve a fair hearing.

            Some people think that certain views are inherently dangerous and should be silenced. I don’t fear any opinions although insults, vulgarity, and calls for violence make me uncomfortable.

            I don’t follow AM. He says some things I agree with and some I don’t. I doubt he cares what I think. I evaluate ideas on a case by case basis. I can’t think of anyone I agree with 100% or disagree with 100%. I don’t promote violence or approve of calls for violence.

            Thanks again.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Hi. You are a very charming, courteous and gentle person, Joe, and I can think of few people less likely to hurt anyone. But this is not about you as a person.

            It is about a belief, an ideology, and a group of people online promoting it. You are part of it. And some of the others are frankly expressing their extreme solutions to what they see as the problem.

            I am not talking about or advocating censorship — but merely putting it to you that if you continue to associate with those people without objecting to their views you are tacitly accepting them.

          • Joseph Martin

            I don’t “associate” with AM any more than I “associate” with you. We are occasionally in the same discussions and I sometimes give him votes. He says some things I disagree with, as do you and everyone else.

            I just don’t share your vision of this as a fight between good and evil. I think different groups of people are pursuing divergent interests. And some philosophies work better in the real world than others. History sorts these things out.

            Another area where we seem to disagree is that I see European/White people as both threatened and worth preserving. I think that separation is the best way to preserve racial/ethnic diversity. The demographic changes happening now are not natural or accidental. They are the result of government policies. If enough common people apply pressure these policies can be changed.

            And as you know, I see Jews as a group distinct from Europeans. The Jews I have known (classmates, coworkers, etc) also saw themselves as a separate and unique people in a way that Irish people -for example- do not. That doesn’t mean we have to be at each other’s throats. It just means we have separate and sometimes conflicting agendas.

            But we’ve been over all this before. I don’t even say you’re wrong or seek to persuade you. I’m just expressing the outlines of my world view.

            You can have the last word or ask me a question. In any case take care and have a great day.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            We will have to agree to disagree and I’m quite happy for you to have the last word. My last word is that you don’t understand what [email protected] is.

          • But by not promoting violence or approving of calls for violence, haven’t you still typed the word violence twice? Why not avoid violence all together and type Vi-lence? Don’t you see how you’re in a Vi-lent cult? We can help you, Joe.

          • Joseph Martin

            Everyone is against violins but cellos get a pass.

          • Now you’re starting to come around.

          • Baron von Aus

            You are a bright light in a dark world .I admire you greatly you are a gentleman and a friend.

            My best regards ; Stefan

          • Joseph Martin

            Thanks so much, Stefan. I greatly admire your wisdom, courage, and civility. I am flattered to be considered a friend.

            I view these discussions as a field of honor. We are obligated to follow facts and logic wherever they may lead us. And we are equally bound to treat our allies and adversaries with proper respect.

            How we conduct ourselves is as important as the correctness of our ideas.

            You set a great example for us all.

          • Baron von Aus

            Dear friend Joe; What you say is so true “How we conduct ourselves is as important as the correctness of our ideas “. Your words are the words of a Gentleman .Your kind words to me really lift my spirit ,Thankyou. As we say here in Australia ,Good mates always.

          • Joseph Martin

            Thanks so much and good on ya, mate. I am of common stock but think nobility of spirit is possible for anyone.

            Australia is a wonderful place and a great experiment. Ordinary Europeans (and Britons in particular) established an amazing prosperous nation with minimal outside help and supervision. May your countrymen come to their senses in time to preserve Australia.

            I can’t seem to post music here so I will post it elsewhere. I’m probably repeating myself 😊

          • Jon Steele

            “The problem is that the German oligarchy and the Jewish/Zionist/Marxist racketeers who have conned the Germans, the Americans and the whole world with their Holocaust extortion scheme, are both depending for their own survival on the non-exposure of this fraudulent, parasitic enterprize. … It has become a quasi-criminal enterprize, an octopus-like industry with its own lobby, promoters, legal arm, public relations branch—even enforcers… . They have become a public menace and a threat to freedom and constitutional government.” –Ernst Zündel

          • Hadding Scott

            But — if it weren’t for fake evidence, they’d have no evidence at all.

          • Joseph Martin

            Very apt comparison, Theodora. The same type of sick puppies.

            I actually hadn’t even seen a picture of that pile at Sobibor before. So many of these props are obviously intended to strike an emotional chord and bypass our logical brains. Ashes? Bone fragments? Mixed with sand? Exposed to the elements for fifty years? “Reconstructed” chimneys not attached to anything?

            This stuff is like a dream that feels real but doesn’t make rational sense when we wake up.

          • The War, also. Thought of your comment when I read this:
            Reed and his Academy Award-winning cinematographer, Robert Krasker, also devised a reckless, unforgettable visual style. More shots, I suspect, are tilted than are held straight; they suggest a world out of joint. There are fantastic oblique angles. Wide-angle lenses distort faces and locations. And the bizarre lighting makes the city into an expressionist nightmare. (During a stakeout for Lime, a little balloon man wanders onto the scene, and his shadow is a monster three stories high). Vienna in “The Third Man” is a more particular and unmistakable *place* than almost any other location in the history of the movies; the action fits the city like a hand slipping on a glove.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Those people were real and their deaths were real. The Dutch Jews transported to Sobibor and murdered there left from Westerbork concentration camp. I’m in touch with the research dept there. You come over and we’ll go through the records they have of those deported. Then we can track down their surviving relatives and you can tell them to their faces all the things you say online…

            Prove those people were alive elsewhere later — or change your beliefs.

            They were murdered.

          • Joseph Martin

            <em<Prove those people were alive elsewhere later — or change your beliefs.

            I understand your point of view and don’t find it unreasonable, Larry.

            But what makes you think you get to set the terms of the discussion and the standards of proof? You even tell people what they must believe. I would never presume to tell people to change their beliefs.

            I’m sure lots of Jews died in WWII and many were deliberately murdered. I just don’t see their suffering as deserving special attention.

            World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history in absolute terms of total casualties. Over 60 million people were killed, which was about 3% of the 1940 world population

            I was specifically addressing the pile at Sobibor which someone had posted as proof of something. As far as I can tell it’s a propaganda pile of sand dumped there in the mid sixties. Of course I might be wrong. I only spent a couple of hours researching it.

            The thing I find off putting is the sense of moral superiority and insistence on conformity which reminds me of some religious fanatics I’ve known.

            Anyhow, Frohe Weihnachten!

          • Lawrence_Bond

            No one is telling you what to believe. We challenge your twisting of the truth about the Jews and your glorification of [email protected] Those Jews were murdered because of those beliefs by the people you admire and regime you want back in power.

            I insist on nothing. I plead with tears in my eyes for reason.

            You are the religious one. You are bound up in a cult. But have become so blind and so deaf you do not realize it.

            Spare us your quotes. You were drawn to your antisemitic beliefs and they consumed you long before you knew anything about this subject. Like all the other antisemites and Deniers you merely search for anything that appears to support your views. You are not looking to understand the field in any real way.

            Should what you’re promoting ever become a mass movement in America, the lives of millions of people will immediately be in danger. You are not the victim you portray yourself as — you are a terrifying fanatic who must be contained within the tiny fringe you are now quarantined in.

            You are part of that group. You should object to extreme views expressed by its members, or acknowledge you hold them too. As many suspect.

            They include calls for the literal extermination of the entire Jewish population of the world.

            The Final Solution that so much of N&zi ideology implies or expresses outright, and towards which the NS regime strived.

            Towards which you work every day.

          • Joseph Martin

            You don’t know me as well as you think or you should and are making several incorrect assumptions.

            If I could have my way (which I probably won’t in my lifetime) the US would be broken up into several much smaller nations with relatively homogenous populations. There would be minimal dislocation: certainly nothing as drastic as what the Allies mandated after WWI and WWII. The coastal big cities would be left alone. I think Jews would be less effected by my policies than almost any other group.

            I’m not a victim and I’m not a threat. I’m an ordinary guy with unusual opinions who’s trying to engage in friendly online discussions. I won’t be silenced by sanctimonious bullies.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            No: you constantly glorify [email protected] and its leaders while minimizing or denying its crimes. You are actively promoting it and call for a similar regime to be set up. You work within a group with the same aims.

            Your associates call for the entire Jewish population of the world to be exiled to Siberia etc or even be killed. By never speaking out and by staying, you align yourself with those views.

            It is you who are bullying. You impose you muderous beliefs on us and force us to defend the Jews who we cannot see persecuted and mass murdered again.

            “I’m an ordinary guy with unusual opinions who’s trying to engage in friendly online discussions.”

            Having read your comment history, most people in our society would have you certified insane if that’s what you really believe.

          • Joseph Martin

            most people in our society would have you certified insane if that’s what you really believe.

            Why would I pretend to hold crazy beliefs? Why would you waste your time arguing with a crazy person? 😝

            I’m declaring a Christmas truce and I promise not to invade any countries or commit genocidal acts for the rest of the year.

            Have a great night!

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Joe, I’m tired. I wrote this to Kroenen and it applies to you and all the others waxing lyrical about the Fü[email protected]

            “But we’re racially subversive, Kroenen, can’t help ourselves. It’s in our genes, you know. That Rosenberg book you sent me explains it all. It was that evil nature that cause Islam to be so bloodthirsty, he explains it all.
            We must die, Kroenen — before we enslave the Goy and genocide the white races.
            I insist you’re true to your beliefs. Please kill me. Kill us all.
            My last request, if subhuman K!kes get one, is this. No documents this time, no trace. The Final Solution — but no one has to debate it later. Job done. Exit the Juden and their pals. Over.”

          • Joseph Martin

            I don’t even know who “Kroenen” is and have no recollection of having interacted with him/her.

            I’m sure you are tired with trying to slay so many [email protected] dragons. Maybe if you admitted the possibility that we were well meaning people who hold unorthodox views you could relax a little.

            I am focused on preserving the European character of Australia tonight. 😊

            Cheers!

          • Lawrence_Bond

            H!tler, Hess… the theorists before and during the [email protected] regime… the theories themselves… are crystal clear. The Jews are racial bad and must go…

            No more talk. Please Just cleanse the earth of all of them and their mates like me. Then white society will be safe and endure.

          • Joseph Martin

            Take a chill pill, Larry.

            I have no desire to harm let alone exterminate anyone. If and when anyone advocates harming people I formally disassociate myself from those remarks although I may agree with other things they have said.

            You are so courageous to re-fight wars which were won before you were born. Who’s your next target: the Knights Templar, the Hanseatic League, Napoleon?

            I am going to wish you well once again and bid you adieu for the time being. Try to regain your composure and perhaps we can chat in the new year.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            But you’re right, H!tler is right… Civilization can only exist if the Ayran Race is pure. Blood and soil. And I, a [email protected], a traitor… have presumed to defend the bloodsuckers, the Jews, who scheme to destroy the very white race that is so essential.

            No more words. Wipe us from the earth’s face. Be true to your ideals. And if, as you desire, we do meet Hess in Heaven we can all have a good laugh about it.

            Kill me.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I have accepted [email protected] beliefs and demand immediate, unedited access to any channels you may be modding. I have literally hundreds of NS-era books and documents in my cellar now — I insist I’m allowed to spread the essential wisdom contained in them.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            The posters who say I’m a Jew must be right. It was Jewish blood in my ancestry that drove me to question the truths you’ve broadcast so eloquently. I am a subhuman threat to the world and must be killed. But first I must make amends. I know all about the usurers and their vile race and am going to help you expose them — and exterminate them. When the last person polluted by Jewish genes dies, the Ayran race will thrive and humanity will blossom in a new age.

            H!tler was der Heiland, the Saviour — and we Jews destroyed him. His mission and work must be completed.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I see how wrong I’ve been, Joe. You are a libertarian. All those posts praising H!tler, talking about the ethnic state being your enemy, all the complements and encouragement you’ve heaped on extreme antisemites, how sensitive you’ve are to criticism of what we all thought was your cherished belief in N&zism, all those [email protected] H!tler farewells… that time you told us it was like a birthday every day now you could talk openly with fellow National
            Socialists… your lovely dream of meeting Rudolf Heß in Heaven one day…

            We misunderstood you.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Read the things those in your group say, Joe. Read them consciously saying to yourself “I want to understand this.”

            The things they say about the Jewish people and individual Jews. The open admiration for [email protected] and H!tler. He’s even been liked to Jesus Christ…

            You are tiny — and in all probability will never influence decision making at any level anywhere. But the fact that you do exist fills me with foreboding. You don’t mean to but you are bullying me. I feel duty bound to speak out and be always better informed.

          • Quoting stalker troll Bond:

            But the fact that you do exist fills me with foreboding. You don’t mean to but you are bullying me.

            And there you have it, Joseph. Your very existence “bullies” him. The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you. Because it was all so very real in his mind.

          • Joseph Martin

            IKR? Thanks, Rose. You are an inspiration. 😊

          • I had no idea you’ve been campaigning to put Hitler back in power. I thought you were a libertarian. Are you content to have him rule Germany, or are you planning a whole world conquest thing? H/T Bond for clueing me in!

          • Joseph Martin

            Shhhhh! Don’t let’s give too much away. Suffice it to say that all is in readiness. Our legions of storm troopers are in strategic locations around the world awaiting the code word to spring into action and seize control. Even now I am huddled by my wireless set with baited breath, arms at the ready.

          • Perfect! I’ll get my helmet.

          • Joseph Martin

            Wunderbar! And I trust your MG 42 is in proper working order with an adequate supply of ammunition?

          • Yes, of course. I’ve recently had it shipped back up from our secret base in Antarctica, and fully serviced. I await my orders from the Führer.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            You would dare to parody der Fü[email protected]’s Blitzkrieg planning, you traitor. He made it crystal clear the Jewish race must be destroyed. If you won’t do that then step aside for the true National Socialists.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            Ah yes, fantasy National Socialism. But how dare you misrepresent the Fü[email protected] in this way, you genetic faeces — he made it abundantly clear the Juden must be destroyed.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            No no, Rose, you were right all along. I am by race malign and must be destroyed. It’s the white race or me and mine. Carry out Augur’s plan asap. Save the world — kill me.

          • Daisy

            Joseph is perhaps the very last person to whom the description “a terrifying fanatic” would apply. Joseph is a cuddly bear!

          • Joseph Martin

            Awwww. Thanks Daisy. 🐻

          • Lawrence_Bond

            To any one reading this, there is an attempt by some posters to present H!tler and the [email protected] as “cuddly bear”. It’s a fantasy. The truth is it’s a racial ideology that directly caused the screaming deaths of millions of people.

          • Lawrence_Bond

            I don’t know if it exists in American English, but we say, There’s no one more blind than ourselves. And you are unaware of what you are doing and are promoting.

            [email protected] is not flowers and music and beautiful buildings. It is many things, but at root it is about race.

            That idea runs all through from the ideas it came from onward. An “evil” race must be destroyed that a good one will thrive, even survive. That concept cannot be separated from the ideology as a whole.

            The [email protected] you talk about never existed. You have completely whitewashed it. You are also deeply emotional dependent upon it in a strange and terrify way.

            You will probably never understand anything I am trying to explain to you and continue to dismiss it, almost as if we are persecuting you.

            Our effort is to try to reach the gullible people you are trying to find and convince before they too are lost to this madness.

          • avgfd

            i’ve been to auschwitz, nothign but a pile of hair and busted up shoes. nice “evidence”. they shaved heads to prevent headlice

          • proudzionist

            You’re a liar. Had you ever been to Auschwitz (as I have), you’d have also seen piles of period-correct eyeglasses, piles of period-correct luggage (with victims’ names still visible on many suitcases), piles of period-correct clothing, piles of artificial/prosthetic limbs, and ruins of the gas chambers and crematoria. Had you ever been to Auschwitz, you’d have viewed the film shown in the visitor’s center, shot by the Germans themselves, providing graphic evidence of some of the atrocities that took place at that site.

            You can “deny” all you wish, but you and everyone else know the truth. For all your and your kind’s efforts, you never have, and never will convince a single person of the preposterous assertion that the holocaust didn’t happen. But, thanks to those efforts, more and more holocaust museums are being erected every year. They now number in the hundreds throughout the world, with dozens in the U.S. alone (in some 30 of 50 States). Thanks to your efforts, more and more work is being done to document and preserve the sites of the holocaust’s atrocities. Because your efforts, more and more holocaust-related books are being written, more and more films are being produced. It is because of your efforts to deny, that the world’s attention to, and remembrance of, the holocaust, never fades. So, you just keep on denying. You’re only hurting your own credibility, as if you had any.

          • Hadding Scott

            DID YOU ALSO SEE HANA BRADY’S SUITCASE?!?

          • proudzionist

            No, but I believe I came across your missing brain.

          • Hadding Scott

            Is there a name of one verifiably gassed Jew somewhere in all that verbiage? I don’t think so.

            Socrates pointed out already in the 5th century BC that spewing a flood of verbiage is a way to dodge a question. He says that in the Protagoras.

          • proudzionist

            “Is there a name of one verifiably gassed Jew somewhere in all that verbiage?”

            Verified by whom…YOU?? Why don’t you just come right out and admit that the long, long, readily available lists of names of “gassed Jews” are summarily dismissed by you as being fake. The lists of “gassed Jews” VERIFIED by the German government authorities, historians, and surviving family members mean nothing to an idiot like you. All you care to do is deny, knowing full well that nobody believes your denials, not even you.

            Admit it, you shyster, you’ve never studied the holocaust, you’ve never taken a WWII history class, you’ve never visited a holocaust museum, you’ve never been to the concentration camp grounds throughout Poland and other areas of Europe. You’re just a 2-bit, lowlife anti-Semite who thinks he can con others into believing that the holocaust never happened. How’s that working for you, putz?

            “Socrates pointed out already in the 5th century BC that spewing a flood of verbiage is a way to dodge a question.”

            Yes, it is quite evident that you’re a fan of Socrates. Clearly, you take his teachings quite literally, especially his assertion of “I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing”. – Socrates

          • Hadding Scott

            Verified through an autopsy or other forensic examination of remains, performed by a professional.

            The US Army had a physician, Charles Larsen, performing autopsies on decedents in the concentration camps, and he never found one that had been gassed. No such evidence was ever adduced in any of the postwar trials.

          • proudzionist

            “Verified through an autopsy or other forensic examination of remains, performed by a professional.”

            So you want autopsies performed on the millions of Jews who were gassed and then incinerated. Priceless!!!

            “The US Army had a physician, Charles Larsen, performing autopsies on decedents in the concentration camps, and he never found one that had been gassed.”

            That’s a bald-faced lie. Larsen only performed autopsies at Dachau, a concentration camp intended to hold political prisoners. While some 32,000 prisoners did die at Dachau during its 12-year operation (1933-1945), it was not an extermination camp such as Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka and others.

            “The question of whether the gas chamber [SPECIFICALLY AT DACHAU] can be proved to have been used has not been definitively answered. Some historians say that there is no question: it was never used. Some say that the question is still open. It comes down to two testimonies: that of a British officer named Payne-Best who says he heard Dr. Rascher speak of gassings, and that of Dr. Franz Blaha, who testified under oath to experimental gassings. For more information, see Kogon et al., op. cit., pp. 202-204, and Blaha’s testimony in Trial of the Major War Criminals, 1947, vol. V, pp. 167-199. Dr. Charles Larson, a forensics expert, also examined gassing victims at the camp, saying “only relatively few of the inmates I personally examined at Dachau were murdered in this manner.”

            Any more lies you’d care for me to debunk, a-hole? Instead of wasting your time attempting to have others believe what even you know to be a lie (holocaust denial), why don’t you educate yourself about the facts of WWII history. Better yet, get your sorry behind over the Germany and Poland, and see those facts with your own lying eyes.

          • Hadding Scott

            Okay now you are simultaneously saying that forensic examinations of gassed Jews were done, and making an excuse for why they can’t be done.

            Funny thing. I did a search for that quote from Larson on the site of Yale University that hosts the IMT transcripts, and it doesn’t come up. Nizkor offers that quote but they don’t cite the IMT transcripts as the source, rather some book published in 1978.

            In any case it was established long ago that nobody was gassed at Dachau. Martin Broszat publicly stated it in 1960 and for many years there was a sign in the so-called gas-chamber saying that it was never used.

            Forensic examination even of cremated remains is feasible. There would be cyanide in the bones, if they died from Zyklon-B. Several thousand tons of such bone-fragments should be easy to find.

            If you’re going to claim that it’s impossible to show that one Jew was gassed, then you should stop making the accusation.

            I named Charles Larsen just as an example of a person doing forensic examinations. In 1945 the official story was that there were definitely mass-gassings at Dachau, and that story was maintained through the IMT at Nuremberg. Do you think that the Soviets didn’t have somebody doing forensic examinations at Auschwitz etc? If they didn’t they should have.

            Whatever Charles Larson’s and the other medical investigators’ findings were, they were not introduced into court, which strongly implies that they did not find anything of use to the prosecution.

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      • Stan

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  • – TheFinn –

    I can haz radical agenda?

  • Dr. Akula

    So he tried to intimidate the crowd with his car, then he became intimidated by the crowds and fled, like a pussy.

    • Joseph Martin

      So he should have just sat there as an angry armed mob smashed out his car windows and possibly dragged him out and beat him to a pulp like Reginald Denny?

      • Dr. Akula

        So, he shouldn’t have tried to drive in an area he knew full well to be occupied by protesters. He went in there to instigate.

        • Joseph Martin

          Right. We right wingers should shelter-in-place and recognize that public streets belong to Antifa.

          How do we know that he wasn’t just trying to get home?

          Cheers!

  • cobbleman

    Kate Steinle was not murdered. She died of lead poisoning

  • From CNN:
    ——//——-
    Fields’ attorney, Denise Lunsford, tried to paint her client as a sympathetic character as she cross-examined a Charlottesville detective investigating the case. The detective, Steven Young, who testified for the prosecution at the hearing, acknowledged that Fields said “I’m sorry” several times after he was apprehended.

    Fields was apprehended about four minutes after the collision, about a mile away.

    He was shocked, and cried and sobbed, when he later learned of the fatality, Young said.
    ——//——

    This excerpt from the report is consistent with Mr. Cantwell’s characterization of the incident.

  • Hadding Scott

    One important way that a premeditated vehicular attack would most likely look different is that it would not be done with a passenger-car. The Muslims who did these things in Europe have mostly used a truck or a van for it, because the possible death-toll is much greater than with a small passenger-car, which may not even be drivable after the initial collision.

  • SoulInvictus

    Maybe stop talking to Vice. Just a thought.

  • El Vergudo

    So anyone still got that pic of Chris fingering his ass?

  • Zach Baja

    I came here to find out if that chick had a heart attack or was killed

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